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Chick-fil-A changes position

What if...? said:
I didn't. Can you think of another reason they would change their position?
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I sure can.....to take the high road, to be the more mature party and set the issue to rest. This whole thing started over a few dozen sandwiches at a marital health event. Chick-Fil-A wasn't out "sponsoring hate groups"...they were supporting healthy marriages. The couples attending those events were a hell of a lot more concerned with problems in their own marriages then what gays were up to. The radicals on the pro-ssm side flipped ****, Chick-Fil-A stood it's ground, and now Chick-Fil-A is ending the topic on their terms.

Chick-Fil-A doesn't have to change a thing in-order to fulfill their promise to not support hate groups. Chick-Fil-A wasn't supporting hate groups in the first place, and Chick-Fil-A isn't changing it's position on SSM. They're just putting the matter to rest.

If pro-ssm wants to think they "won" something, hey, awesome, get down wit'yo baad self, but Chick-Fil-A will no longer be a rallying cry for pro-ssm.
 
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Jerry said:
I sure can.....to take the high road, to be the more mature party and set the issue to rest. This whole thing started over a few dozen sandwiches at a marital health event. Chick-Fil-A wasn't out "sponsoring hate groups"...they were supporting healthy marriages. The radicals on the pro-ssm side flipped ****, Chick-Fil-A stood it's ground, and now Chick-Fil-A is ending the topic on their terms.
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I think the Romney campaign could REALLY use you about now.:mrgreen:

But seriously, good for them. Regardless of why they did it.

I would stop boycotting them if i was. Don't care for the food much.
 
Jerry said:
I sure can.....to take the high road, to be the more mature party and set the issue to rest. This whole thing started over a few dozen sandwiches at a marital health event. Chick-Fil-A wasn't out "sponsoring hate groups"...they were supporting healthy marriages. The couples attending those events were a hell of a lot more concerned with problems in their own marriages then what gays were up to. The radicals on the pro-ssm side flipped ****, Chick-Fil-A stood it's ground, and now Chick-Fil-A is ending the topic on their terms.

Chick-Fil-A doesn't have to change a thing in-order to fulfill their promise to not support hate groups. Chick-Fil-A wasn't supporting hate groups in the first place, and Chick-Fil-A isn't changing it's position on SSM. They're just putting the matter to rest.

If pro-ssm wants to think they "won" something, hey, awesome, get down wit'yo baad self, but Chick-Fil-A will no longer be a rallying cry for pro-ssm.
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You should get into PR Jerry. You're a great rhetorician and with just enough false heart to really make a difference. Call me when you're out of the military. Seriously. I know a few guys in PR who could use somebody like you.
 
What if...? said:
I think the Romney campaign could REALLY use you about now.:mrgreen:

But seriously, good for them. Regardless of why they did it.

I would stop boycotting them if i was. Don't care for the food much.
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I wouldn't know, I'm not following the election. Whoever is not Obama is who's getting my vote.
 
RadicalModerate said:
The market wins again.
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hehe.. that's what I was thinking too.. and the obligatory leftist notion of " evil corporation, they're just in it for a buck, greedy evil bastards"

people love the market when they benefit, hate it when they don't...<shrug>
 
doin mah git down wiff mah bad seff dance...

Downplay it all you want Chick's Board took a step back away from controversial groups such as Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage. Don't sniff at a few fast food bags for a small back water event, which by the way is how Watergate started, a minor event that ended with Nixon resigning in disgrace.

Small event that causes big changes, the ol' flap of a butterfly wing.

IF all Chick ever did was sling free food at certain groups then the dismissive right might have something, but this goes far belong that.

now how is that Nabisco boycott going?
 
one thing to consider while doing the victory dance....

they might stop giving in the corporations name... but I doubt the donations will stop entirely.
most likely, they'll just donate in their own names, or guide the money through other entities.

with the added bonus of bringing back customers they might have lost over this stupid dust-up..
 
disneydude said:
Looks like that one day event didn't help Chick-Fil-A as much as the long term effect hurt them


Chick-fil-A agrees to stop funding anti-gay groups, Chicago alderman says | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

Chick-fil-A, the fast food chain that sparked a firestorm earlier this year after its president made public comments against same sex marriage, has agreed to stop funding anti-gay groups, a Chicago alderman says.

Joe Moreno, the alderman whose opposition of a proposed Chick-fil-A on Chicago's north side helped fuel the controversy, told the Chicago Tribune the company has pledged to include a statement of respect for all sexual orientations in a memo to staffers and has promised that the WinShape Foundations, its not-for-profit arm, would no longer contribute money to groups that oppose gay marriage.


Chick-Fil-A realized that bigotry was going to substantially hurt their long term profits.
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Well i dont see the evidence that they changed thier position but it is a great thing they no longer give money to what I consider hate groups.

Like I have always said, believe its wrong, teach it wrong, feel its wrong, preach its wrong etc etc that is a persons rights but as soon as you do things to STOP equal rights IMO you are a bigot and a huge hypocrite.

So now in my opinion the CEO just has a belief, one i disagree with, no biggie.
 
disneydude said:
For one day. Obviously that one day was offset by a steep decline in business that led to this decision.
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Any proof sales fell off?

If the company was so worried about making bank.... why still stay closed on Sunday? Losing alot of money right there........

If money is everything...of course.....
 
I ate there before, I ate there after the story about the donations came out, and I will eat there again.

Try to figure out those politics.....
 
Caine said:
Any proof sales fell off?

If the company was so worried about making bank.... why still stay closed on Sunday? Losing alot of money right there........

If money is everything...of course.....
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Staying closed on Sundays has always been their policy. The recent controversy most likely had a more direct impact on their sales. These types of decisions are always based on economics. I would doubt very highly that CFA changed their position out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
disneydude said:
that's ok....I support people making an informed decision on where their money is spent....even if they are polar opposite of me. I just personally think that it is the morally responsible thing to do. I hate spending my money on companies that turn out to be fundamentally opposed to things I believe in and vice versa. Knowledge is power and knowledge is a good thing.
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I dunno about you....

But some of us eat where food tastes good. Shop where the items that we need are (and are well priced) and are easy to get around/to/from/in, etc.

I don't give a rats ass what liberal or religious "causes" they care about. None of that trumps the "cause" of taking care of my own family first.


But I reckon a wealthy liberal doesn't have to worry about stuff like that.
 
disneydude said:
Staying closed on Sundays has always been their policy. The recent controversy most likely had a more direct impact on their sales. These types of decisions are always based on economics. I would doubt very highly that CFA changed their position out of the goodness of their hearts.
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I highly doubt it.

Why? Because many people don't stick with silly boycotts for very long at all.

And most people..... just don't give a ****.
 
Caine said:
I dunno about you....

But some of us eat where food tastes good. Shop where the items that we need are (and are well priced) and are easy to get around/to/from/in, etc.

I don't give a rats ass what liberal or religious "causes" they care about. None of that trumps the "cause" of taking care of my own family first.


But I reckon a wealthy liberal doesn't have to worry about stuff like that.
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I'm not wealthy by any strectch of the imagination. However, I do consider myself politically conscious and care about what companies and policies me and my family support. Given a choice, I'm going to spend my dollars doing business with companies that reflect my values and beliefs. I generally don't mind paying a dollar or two more to support an independent local business as well. I certainly respect your right to shop whereever or however you like....me personally, I feel morally obligated to vote with my pocketbook. But to each his own.
 
disneydude said:
Staying closed on Sundays has always been their policy. The recent controversy most likely had a more direct impact on their sales. These types of decisions are always based on economics. I would doubt very highly that CFA changed their position out of the goodness of their hearts.
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So you are just guessing.....

My guess is that this has much more to do with LOCAL events in CHICAAAHHH-GO (you have to hold your nose when you say it) than it has to do with Bigotry or Dollars.

Like the blocking of a Chic-Fil-A due to difference of political opinion.
 
Caine said:
I highly doubt it.

Why? Because many people don't stick with silly boycotts for very long at all.

And most people..... just don't give a ****.
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You'd be surprized....and I think CFA is a good example. I would agree with you on "Reverse Boycotts"...generally when people show up like at CFA to support a cause it is short lived. However, regular boycotts can be very effective and usually have much longer and severe economic impacts.
 
Caine said:
So you are just guessing.....

My guess is that this has much more to do with LOCAL events in CHICAAAHHH-GO (you have to hold your nose when you say it) than it has to do with Bigotry or Dollars.

Like the blocking of a Chic-Fil-A due to difference of political opinion.
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Uh....this is a nationwide change in policy.
 
I'm sorry...but I could honestly careless what the owners of Chick-fil-A think of politics. As long as they keep making that delicious spicy chicken sandwich then I'm a customer. Regardless, what they did was foolish and did nothing but hurt their bottom line. If they had kept silent about politics and worried about sales and profits...this wouldn't have happened.
 
disneydude said:
Uh....this is a nationwide change in policy.
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Then why again are we being told about it via Joe Morreno.... and alderman in ChiCAHHHH-GO?
 
Caine said:
Then why again are we being told about it via Joe Morreno.... and alderman in ChiCAHHHH-GO?
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That was the breaking story yesterday. It was confirmed and was more widely covered today by most news agencies.
 
disneydude said:
How do you explain it then, Chick fil A made this decision "out of the goodness of their hearts".....LOL....hardly. This is clearly a business decision. It is very likely that ChickFilA experience a big surge in profit from the bigots who patronized them immediately during the initial incident, however, they saw a big decline in their business after. Decisions like this aren't made "out of the goodness of their hearts"...they are made because they affect the almighty dollar bottom line.
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Frankly I hope this story is wrong, because people like you don't deserve a change of mind. Damn boy, they can't do anything you'll be satisfied with. Look at the intolerance you're showing here.
 
disneydude said:
That was the breaking story yesterday. It was confirmed and was more widely covered today by most news agencies.
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I don't see any "change in policy" for Chick-Fil-A.
 
American said:
Frankly I hope this story is wrong, because people like you don't deserve a change of mind. Damn boy, they can't do anything you'll be satisfied with. Look at the intolerance you're showing here.
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American.... Can't say boy.... its "code" racism....

:roll:
 
American said:
Frankly I hope this story is wrong, because people like you don't deserve a change of mind. Damn boy, they can't do anything you'll be satisfied with. Look at the intolerance you're showing here.
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Where is the "intolerance"? Because I point out the their decision is probably motivated by economics....as most all business decisions are? That's a stretch.
 
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