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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and what about those religious types who think dancing is sinful and that nobody should be doing such carnal things?
    Surely the ACLU is on the case to ensure all is fair, no feelings are hurt, and no one is left out.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

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    Surely the ACLU is on the case to ensure all is fair, no feelings are hurt, and no one is left out.

    That may be your idea of the ACLU but it ain't what it does
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A bit more on the story from the local paper, The Providence Journal, which has two interesting points

    Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island ACLU released a statement that said, "the school district recognized that in the 21st Century, public schools have no business fostering the notion that girls prefer to go to formal dances while boys prefer baseball games. This type of gender stereotyping only perpetuates outdated notions of 'girl' and 'boy' activities and is contrary to federal law."

    Now you don't have to believe the ACLU, and I know a lot of you won't - but he is saying the matter was over and done with several months ago. So why is it being thrown into the media now, instead of last April May when the school board was discussing the single mom's request.

    For those who really and truly believe the ACLU just hates Christians - you're wrong - here's a story from Utah.
    ACLU sues city over claims Christian church being banned from passing out fliers

    Here's another instance of those "commie atheists" in the ACLU helping Christians in jail in Virginia in 2009
    Neither the ACLU nor Mr. Brown have any business making declarations about the traditions of a high school in Rhode Island. It's cases like these that give the ACLU its well deserved bad reputation in public discourse. It's outrageous that such an innocuous tradition meant to celebrate the bond between father and daughter must be torn down in the name of "equality".

    The ACLU worships the Constitution, not God, and cares about Christians only insofar as civil rights are concerned. The ACLU "supports" Christianity but has no respect for it. Ironically, the very abuse and marginalization of women that many on the left decry is prevented by such dances and other similar social traditions, so that girls who will be women will learn to expect respect and gentlemanly treatment, and immediately and with conviction reject anyone who would treat them differently. The proof of self-esteem comes not from what you can do, but what you won't allow others to do to you.

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    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A bit more on the story from the local paper, The Providence Journal, which has two interesting points




    Now you don't have to believe the ACLU, and I know a lot of you won't - but he is saying the matter was over and done with several months ago. So why is it being thrown into the media now, instead of last April May when the school board was discussing the single mom's request.

    For those who really and truly believe the ACLU just hates Christians - you're wrong - here's a story from Utah.
    ACLU sues city over claims Christian church being banned from passing out fliers

    Here's another instance of those "commie atheists" in the ACLU helping Christians in jail in Virginia in 2009
    O, the ACLU does a lot of fine work, no question. But they do seem to carry on an awful lot of foolish lawsuits, especially as regards schools.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    O, the ACLU does a lot of fine work, no question. But they do seem to carry on an awful lot of foolish lawsuits, especially as regards schools.

    I think that depends upon one's definition of "foolish"
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I think that depends upon one's definition of "foolish"
    Very true.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Well I don't see any high school students or pre-teens wanting to attend the father-daughter dance, or the mom/son baseball game either.
    I kinda doubt they would have lasted for decades if there were no interest.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    This is probably a good idea. Clearly, the human species has evolved to an enlightened point beyond needing the ability to make it's own decisions regarding diversity of options in recreation.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    That may be your idea of the ACLU but it ain't what it does
    That was kind of the point; they pick and choose who deserves "fairness" and what is and isn't acceptable nowadays.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Neither the ACLU nor Mr. Brown have any business making declarations about the traditions of a high school in Rhode Island. It's cases like these that give the ACLU its well deserved bad reputation in public discourse. It's outrageous that such an innocuous tradition meant to celebrate the bond between father and daughter must be torn down in the name of "equality".

    The ACLU worships the Constitution, not God, and cares about Christians only insofar as civil rights are concerned. The ACLU "supports" Christianity but has no respect for it. Ironically, the very abuse and marginalization of women that many on the left decry is prevented by such dances and other similar social traditions, so that girls who will be women will learn to expect respect and gentlemanly treatment, and immediately and with conviction reject anyone who would treat them differently. The proof of self-esteem comes not from what you can do, but what you won't allow others to do to you.

    Dignity is word we need to remember.
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    EQUAL rights are not more equal for some
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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