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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How can you say that canceling is "childish" when the alternatives are "play baseball with your parents" and "dance with your parents" activities - might work for kids in elementary school, but high school students?
    Um, I don't get your point.
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Why wasn't she allowed to attend? Was it because she's fatherless, because she didn't have an adult with her at all? The article doesn't say.
    Good question... she was apparently given several alternatives that she turned down, so the article implies harsher treatment than was offered. I wish I knew the specifics, but I'm guessing she just wasn't allowed to attend the dance with the person she wanted to bring.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Good question... she was apparently given several alternatives that she turned down, so the article implies harsher treatment than was offered. I wish I knew the specifics, but I'm guessing she just wasn't allowed to attend the dance with the person she wanted to bring.
    I'd like to know, just for curiosity's sake. There's a local organization here that offers a "daddy-daughter" dance, but they allow moms to attend in place of the daddy, or an older brother, uncle, whatever...so long as the girl's partner is 18 or older.
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

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    Um, I don't get your point.
    Changing a father-daughter dance into a parent-student dance completely alters the nature of the event. Once you open it up to everyone (girls and boys alike), it becomes prom-with-your-parents. I just don't see many high school students wanting to attend such an event. Heck, I don't see most pre-teens wanting to attend such an event.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    they should just call them "human being- human being dances/ballgames".. that way we can totally remove familial relationships from the public eye.. and no one gets offended.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Changing a father-daughter dance into a parent-student dance completely alters the nature of the event. Once you open it up to everyone (girls and boys alike), it becomes prom-with-your-parents. I just don't see many high school students wanting to attend such an event. Heck, I don't see most pre-teens wanting to attend such an event.
    Well I don't see any high school students or pre-teens wanting to attend the father-daughter dance, or the mom/son baseball game either.
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    A bit more on the story from the local paper, The Providence Journal, which has two interesting points

    Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island ACLU released a statement that said, "the school district recognized that in the 21st Century, public schools have no business fostering the notion that girls prefer to go to formal dances while boys prefer baseball games. This type of gender stereotyping only perpetuates outdated notions of 'girl' and 'boy' activities and is contrary to federal law."

    On Monday, Sean Gately, a Republican running for the state Senate in District 26, denounced Cranston's decision to ban such gender-specific events.

    Brown, of the ACLU, said the matter was "amicably resolved" in May and is now being used to stoke controversy during a political campaign.

    Now you don't have to believe the ACLU, and I know a lot of you won't - but he is saying the matter was over and done with several months ago. So why is it being thrown into the media now, instead of last April May when the school board was discussing the single mom's request.

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    The American Civil Liberties Union accused the Rappahannock Regional Jail yesterday of unconstitutionally censoring inmates' mail by cutting out references to the Bible.

    In a letter to the jail's superintendent, Joseph Higgs, the ACLU told the jail to "remedy the illegal practices" of cutting out biblical references from letters written to inmates.
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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    they should just call them "human being- human being dances/ballgames".. that way we can totally remove familial relationships from the public eye.. and no one gets offended.
    What about the people that don't like dances OR ballgames? That's really not fair to them. I mean dances and ballgames are SO last century.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So why is it being thrown into the media now, instead of last April May when the school board was discussing the single mom's request.
    The answer is in the OP - there's a guy running for state senate that wants to exempt these sorts of activities from RI state law as we've already done at the federal level.

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    Re: Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What about the people that don't like dances OR ballgames? That's really not fair to them. I mean dances and ballgames are SO last century.

    and what about those religious types who think dancing is sinful and that nobody should be doing such carnal things?
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