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8,786,049: Yet Another Record For Americans Collecting Disability

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The Social Security Administration has released new data revealing that 8,786,049 American workers are collecting federal disability insurance payments in September. That sets yet another record for the number of Americans on disability.
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8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability | CNSNews.com

the entire obama economy is disabled

58% of the paltry jobs created since the official end of the recession, coinciding almost exactly with the promotion of pissed off president punt, are in the lowest third of earners, pulling down a lugubriously unlivable $7.69 to $13.83 per hour

Majority of new jobs in recovery are low-paying, study finds - latimes.com

moreover, the actual incomes of middle class americans have fallen TWICE as fast AFTER the recession ended as they dropped DURING the deepest dark days of depression

Household income fell 4.8% during economic recovery, latimes

two weeks ago, we learned a record number of americans are dependent on food stamps

Food stamp enrollment hits record high of 46.7M | Mail Online

never before have so many americans lived in poverty

BBC News - Number of Americans in poverty hits record high

america's willing work force is at historic lows

Fox: Labor Participation Rate Falls to 63.5%, 30-Year Low

if the participation rate was what it was on january 20, 2009, our nation's unemployment rate would be 11.2%

our near retirees take disability, folks go on social security early

Record Social Security payouts in fiscal 2012 | Times 247

mitt romney is right---tens of millions of our neighbors and friends are trapped, unable these days to get along on their own without public assistance, a tragedy

despair is palpable

HuffPo/Long Term Unemployment: A National Crisis

nationally, 44% of our unemployed have been so more than six months, completely new territory for the united states

in 1983, 26% of unemployed were long term, our nation's previous high

in virtually every measurable we see misery

America's gross domestic product — the broadest measure of economic output — grew 6.8 percent from the April-June quarter of 2009 through the same quarter this year, the slowest in the first three years of a postwar recovery. GDP grew an average of 15.5 percent in the first three years of the eight other recoveries analyzed.

Consumer spending has grown just 6.5 percent since the recession ended, feeblest in a postwar recovery. In the first three years of previous recoveries, spending rose an average of nearly 14 percent.

The economy shed a staggering 8.8 million jobs during and shortly after the recession. Since employment hit bottom, the economy has created just over 4 million jobs. So the new hiring has replaced 46 percent of the lost jobs, by far the worst performance since World War II. In the previous eight recoveries, the economy had regained more than 350 percent of the jobs lost, on average.

Adjusted for inflation, wages have fallen 0.8 percent. In the previous five recoveries —the records go back only to 1964 — real wages had gone up an average 1.5 percent at this point.
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Economic recovery is weakest since World War II - Yahoo! News

that's a lot of what bill clinton calls arithmetic

and what precisely does pissed off president punt propose?

only more of the same tired, old liberal politics

america simply can't afford it
 
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Did Obama personally break their legs?
 
So, lets go back in time to 1/1/2009. By magical means we elected The Prof. What would you have done? I contend that anything short of divine intervention would have us right where we are now. I hope you can express what you would have done, how you would have gone about it (using Constitutional means) and what outcome you would hav expected.

This is a real question and I hope you'll discuss it with me. I don't have a cat in this race. I'm voting for Gary Johnson. So no partisan stuff, real thoughts. Thank you.



The Prof said:
8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability | CNSNews.com

the entire obama economy is disabled

58% of the paltry jobs created since the official end of the recession, coinciding almost exactly with the promotion of pissed off president punt, are in the lowest third of earners, pulling down a lugubriously unlivable $7.69 to $13.83 per hour

Majority of new jobs in recovery are low-paying, study finds - latimes.com

moreover, the actual incomes of middle class americans have fallen TWICE as fast AFTER the recession ended as they dropped DURING the deepest dark days of depression

Household income fell 4.8% during economic recovery, latimes

two weeks ago, we learned a record number of americans are dependent on food stamps

Food stamp enrollment hits record high of 46.7M | Mail Online

never before have so many americans lived in poverty

BBC News - Number of Americans in poverty hits record high

america's willing work force is at historic lows

Fox: Labor Participation Rate Falls to 63.5%, 30-Year Low

if the participation rate was what it was on january 20, 2009, our nation's unemployment rate would be 11.2%

our near retirees take disability, folks go on social security early

Record Social Security payouts in fiscal 2012 | Times 247

mitt romney is right---tens of millions of our neighbors and friends are trapped, unable these days to get along on their own without public assistance, a tragedy

despair is palpable

HuffPo/Long Term Unemployment: A National Crisis

nationally, 44% of our unemployed have been so more than six months, completely new territory for the united states

in 1983, 26% of unemployed were long term, our nation's previous high

in virtually every measurable we see misery



Economic recovery is weakest since World War II - Yahoo! News

that's a lot of what bill clinton calls arithmetic

and what precisely does pissed off president punt propose?

only more of the same tired, old liberal politics

america simply can't afford it
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So, lets go back in time to 1/1/2009. By magical means we elected The Prof. What would you have done? I contend that anything short of divine intervention would have us right where we are now. I hope you can express what you would have done, how you would have gone about it (using Constitutional means) and what outcome you would have expected.

This is a real question and I hope you'll discuss it with me. I don't have a cat in this race. I'm voting for Gary Johnson. So no partisan stuff, real thoughts. Thank you.



The Prof said:
8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability | CNSNews.com

the entire obama economy is disabled

58% of the paltry jobs created since the official end of the recession, coinciding almost exactly with the promotion of pissed off president punt, are in the lowest third of earners, pulling down a lugubriously unlivable $7.69 to $13.83 per hour

Majority of new jobs in recovery are low-paying, study finds - latimes.com

moreover, the actual incomes of middle class americans have fallen TWICE as fast AFTER the recession ended as they dropped DURING the deepest dark days of depression

Household income fell 4.8% during economic recovery, latimes

two weeks ago, we learned a record number of americans are dependent on food stamps

Food stamp enrollment hits record high of 46.7M | Mail Online

never before have so many americans lived in poverty

BBC News - Number of Americans in poverty hits record high

america's willing work force is at historic lows

Fox: Labor Participation Rate Falls to 63.5%, 30-Year Low

if the participation rate was what it was on january 20, 2009, our nation's unemployment rate would be 11.2%

our near retirees take disability, folks go on social security early

Record Social Security payouts in fiscal 2012 | Times 247

mitt romney is right---tens of millions of our neighbors and friends are trapped, unable these days to get along on their own without public assistance, a tragedy

despair is palpable

HuffPo/Long Term Unemployment: A National Crisis

nationally, 44% of our unemployed have been so more than six months, completely new territory for the united states

in 1983, 26% of unemployed were long term, our nation's previous high

in virtually every measurable we see misery



Economic recovery is weakest since World War II - Yahoo! News

that's a lot of what bill clinton calls arithmetic

and what precisely does pissed off president punt propose?

only more of the same tired, old liberal politics

america simply can't afford it
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Y'know what would help prevent all those people who lost their middle class jobs from losing their health insurance and subsequently falling into the ranks of the disabled? Universal health care.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
The disability system is pretty ripe with fraud and moral hazard, but that is not Obama's fault.
It was like that far before he was even old enough to run for Pres.
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People Are Policy.
 
Disability has become a catch all for people who have been ousted from other assistance programs justifiably or not. Since the reforms on welfare limiting the period that people can collect benefits there has been a huge surge in filings for children to collect disability. Workers injured on the job find out that most companies can weasel out of any real compensation through forced arbitration and end up on SSD. I guess it also never occurred to the OP that the veterans returning from the two wars "W" waged are also inflating the rolls when they return and can't find employment. It's even possible to collect VA disability and Social Security disability at the same time, my neighbor does it. As for wages dropping, that's been going on for much longer than the Obama presidency. One of my major objections to the GOP's mantra that small business will save America is that the vast majority of the jobs created by small business are low paying service jobs. Opening a Subway franchise might do wonders for the owner's financial bottom line but it isn't going to boost his minimum wage employees out of poverty.
 
Did Obama personally break their legs?
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no, their hearts

The Hope And The Change - Official Movie Trailer - YouTube

40 former obama voters, D's and I's, all from swing states, testify to their angst:

didn't get what i was expecting, lost faith, party's over, smoke's cleared, no solutions, broken promises, credit rating, gas, food, premiums, never been so broke, we got fooled, not working, hole's getting deeper, buyers remorse, let me down, no hope no change, lousy job, we're divided, time for a change...

"i just don't wanna hear it anymore"

can you blame em?
 
As for wages dropping, that's been going on for much longer than the Obama presidency
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middle class incomes fell (about $4000 per dollars per year) twice as fast after the obama "recovery" than they did during the worst recession since the great depression

the vast majority of the jobs created by small business are low paying service jobs
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58% of the way-too-few jobs created since the summer of 09 pay between 8 and 13 dollars per hour, the top gainers are retail and food service

links above
 
omnibus energy---mobilize this nation, marshal its anxiety over its future, like fdr in ww2, direct it purposefully towards the goal of energy production, anything and everything that promises to pay---oil, refineries, offshore, public lands, anwr, xl, electrical power plants, clean coal, gas, nukes, alternatives, wind, solar, tidal, butterfly wings, shale, alternatives, batteries, tax breaks for, public investment in, r&d, fracking...

these are great jobs we're talking, better, they're fine professions, careers, with good salaries, benefits, pensions, health care, room for advancement...

energy is a guaranteed worldwide critical need for at least the next hundred years, he or she who produces power will have the entire planet at his or her well grounded feet

mobilize this country, emergency footing, like fdr in 1940, an urgent, single minded national mission of energy production

hope, direction, vision, leadership---i believe this nation would respond with eagerness

beats despair
 
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The Prof said:
8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability | CNSNews.com

the entire obama economy is disabled

58% of the paltry jobs created since the official end of the recession, coinciding almost exactly with the promotion of pissed off president punt, are in the lowest third of earners, pulling down a lugubriously unlivable $7.69 to $13.83 per hour

Majority of new jobs in recovery are low-paying, study finds - latimes.com

moreover, the actual incomes of middle class americans have fallen TWICE as fast AFTER the recession ended as they dropped DURING the deepest dark days of depression

Household income fell 4.8% during economic recovery, latimes

two weeks ago, we learned a record number of americans are dependent on food stamps

Food stamp enrollment hits record high of 46.7M | Mail Online

never before have so many americans lived in poverty

BBC News - Number of Americans in poverty hits record high

america's willing work force is at historic lows

Fox: Labor Participation Rate Falls to 63.5%, 30-Year Low

if the participation rate was what it was on january 20, 2009, our nation's unemployment rate would be 11.2%

our near retirees take disability, folks go on social security early

Record Social Security payouts in fiscal 2012 | Times 247

mitt romney is right---tens of millions of our neighbors and friends are trapped, unable these days to get along on their own without public assistance, a tragedy

despair is palpable

HuffPo/Long Term Unemployment: A National Crisis

nationally, 44% of our unemployed have been so more than six months, completely new territory for the united states

in 1983, 26% of unemployed were long term, our nation's previous high

in virtually every measurable we see misery



Economic recovery is weakest since World War II - Yahoo! News

that's a lot of what bill clinton calls arithmetic

and what precisely does pissed off president punt propose?

only more of the same tired, old liberal politics

america simply can't afford it
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If you are really into statistics you already know how difficult it was for qualified people with disabilities to get good jobs before 2008. You know that disabled people are woefully underemployed as well. NOT because they want to be unemployed or underemployed. You know that even qualified people with disabilities are often, far too often the last to be hired and the first to be fired. (Don't tell me that there are laws to prevent firing people with disabilities. An HR guy or his director would have to be a raving dolt not to know how to get around the law.)

Contrary to what seems to be your (misguided) belief, most people want to work. They want good jobs that offer opportunity and decent pay and a chance to move up. The vast majority of people in America don't want to live like a refugee. But when the economy hits the skids people with disabilities are even more likely not to be hired and even more likely to be fired. Being a numbers guy you already know all this.

Look also at the demographics of aging, disability and unemployment. The first baby boomers crossed the threshold of 65 just a could of years ago. You also know that good or bad, baby boomers have had a huge impact of every stage of life they reached. Why because - as you know - it is a huge population. Many of those boomers had retired or were planning on retiring when Wall Street stole their retirement incomes. Many had to try and go back to work or continued on working until they got axed. Why? Because in many cases it was cheaper by far to get rid of the senior employees with all the benefits. Also, boomers due to age tend to have, what? Disabilities.

Older Americans are right behind disabled Americans in experiencing job discrimination. So guess what? Older people who lost their jobs or lost their savings and have acquired a disability have hard no chance at finding work. Add one more thing to the mixed, race. If you are an ethnic minority American who is older and has a disability, you're ****ed. You aren't getting a job.

Look at the economy, add in the other factors (the ones you thought the rest of us wouldn't know anything about) and there is the real answer.
 
An HR guy or his director would have to be a raving dolt not to know how to get around the law
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LOL!

he's not the only one who knows

most people want to work
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we sure do, millions can't find anything in obama's "recovery"

They want good jobs that offer opportunity and decent pay and a chance to move up
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58% of us who succeed in securing work end up making around $10 per hour

The first baby boomers crossed the threshold of 65 just a could (sic) of years ago
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leadership, anyone?

2011: President's budget sinks, 97-0 | TheHill.com

2012: Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times

2012: Obama budget defeated 414-0 - Washington Times
 
Prof - The silence following my question to you is kind of disappointing.

I'm no Obama fan but I contend that this would be happening no matter who was in charge. So, please tell me what Obusha should have done instead.

specklebang said:
So, lets go back in time to 1/1/2009. By magical means we elected The Prof. What would you have done? I contend that anything short of divine intervention would have us right where we are now. I hope you can express what you would have done, how you would have gone about it (using Constitutional means) and what outcome you would hav expected.

This is a real question and I hope you'll discuss it with me. I don't have a cat in this race. I'm voting for Gary Johnson. So no partisan stuff, real thoughts. Thank you.
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The Prof said:
middle class incomes fell (about $4000 per dollars per year) twice as fast after the obama "recovery" than they did during the worst recession since the great depression



58% of the way-too-few jobs created since the summer of 09 pay between 8 and 13 dollars per hour, the top gainers are retail and food service

links above
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And in 2007 food service was #1 and retail was #3 with health care in the middle. You are attempting to blame long term trends in the job market on Obama's policies.
 
You are attempting to blame long term trends in the job market on Obama's policies.
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LOL!

tell it to the la times
 
The Prof said:
LOL!

tell it to the la times
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If that's a reference to the Tribune company filing for bankruptcy, are you now attempting to blame the general decline of newspapers on Obama also? What's next, we find out it was Obama who created and released AIDS?
 
The silence following my question to you is kind of disappointing
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read above, 9 posts up
 
If that's a reference to the Tribune company filing for bankruptcy
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LOL!

too many links for you, apparently

y'all talk too much and link too little

take care
 
The Prof said:
LOL!

too many links for you, apparently

y'all talk too much and link too little

take care
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I was a bit remiss in overlooking the passage in your L.A. Times article that proves my point and deflates yours. Frankly, I thought you might read all of your own citation or did you just think no one else would? Enjoy!

"The recession and its aftermath have exacerbated a three-decade trend of growing wage inequality fueled by a shrinking number of mid-wage jobs, the study said.

Since the first quarter of 2001, employment in mid-wage jobs has decreased by 7.3%. Meanwhile, lower-wage jobs have grown by 8.7% and higher-wage jobs have increased by 6.6%."
 
median household income from january, 2000, to december, 2007, the start of the recession, rose a dismal .8%

from the start of the recession til its official end in the summer of 09, middle class income fell 2.6%

since then, under the obama "recovery," 3 years and 3 months, median household income collapsed a staggering 4.8%

it is what it is, what clinton calls arithmetic

lat link posted above, repeatedly
 
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