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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Obama had the opportunity to install an Egyptian dictator who would have been friendly to the US, but he blew it.
    and you would of got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky Egyptian's.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    lol yes because the GOP have maintained such a open policy on Iran during the last year...


    p.s what middle eastern allies has the US had to fall back on in the past?
    Well according to Obama, Mubarak was a stalwart US ally. Makes you wonder why he helped pull the rug out from under him, doesn't it?

    Obama: Mubarak is a "Stalwart Ally ... Force for Stability & Good" - YouTube

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Well according to Obama, Mubarak was a stalwart US ally. Makes you wonder why he helped pull the rug out from under him, doesn't it?

    Obama: Mubarak is a "Stalwart Ally ... Force for Stability & Good" - YouTube
    again I think that situation was out of Obamas control! You can be interfering with every countries domestic struggles especially if those struggles involve removing a dictator and trying to replace it with democracy. Granted right now it doesnt look good in Egypt but it wouldnt look good for the US if you were seen propping up dictators considering you history of pushing "freedom" and the last 10 years of toppling dictators.
    Be kind of sending the wrong message.
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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    again I think that situation was out of Obamas control! You can be interfering with every countries domestic struggles especially if those struggles involve removing a dictator and trying to replace it with democracy. Granted right now it doesnt look good in Egypt but it wouldnt look good for the US if you were seen propping up dictators considering you history of pushing "freedom" and the last 10 years of toppling dictators.
    Be kind of sending the wrong message.
    If you don't stand with your allies who will trust you? And bear in mind that Obama owns Libya. Obama issued an executive order describing Libya as an unusual threat to US security and then engaged in an illegal war against them in support of a UN resolution. He never got approval from the US Congress in violation of the War Powers Act. He also ignored the Iranians when they asked for help and attempted to revolt in 2009. His policies in the Middle East have been a disaster.
    Prior to this meltdown he and Biden had been doing a lot of boasting on the campaign trail about bin Laden and taking out Al Quaeda. Now they are attempting to place responsibility for all of this on an obscure movie. They are always pointing the finger at someone else.

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Obama had the opportunity to install an Egyptian dictator who would have been friendly to the US, but he blew it
    that's ok, he apologized

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    If you did count countries like Egypt as your friend then your all being very naive
    well, it looks like we won't have to worry about that anymore

    thank goodness the day obama was inaugurated everything transformed

    Obama Flashback: The Day I'm Inaugurated The Muslim World Will Look At Us Differently

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    well, it looks like we won't have to worry about that anymore

    thank goodness the day obama was inaugurated everything transformed

    Obama Flashback: The Day I'm Inaugurated The Muslim World Will Look At Us Differently
    Well you have to give Obama credit for getting this one right. The Muslim world definitely looks at the US differently now that he's in the White House.

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    interesting-
    a President who leans into military operations is seen as micromanaging. BushII claimed to always defer to his Generals,(as long as they didn't say 200,000 troops would be needed to occupy Iraq after the fall of Saddam.), but Obama should be directing soldiers at the tactical level?
    Maybe thats how you see it. I think the commander is supposed to command. And you do that by listening to your generals and then making decisions. And since the Commander is also a polticial representative, its his job to explain to us whats going on, and be accountable to us. To make the military accountable to us. And while we're at it, congress is suppose to supervise the president, and hold him accountable to us.

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Well according to Obama, Mubarak was a stalwart US ally. Makes you wonder why he helped pull the rug out from under him, doesn't it?

    Obama: Mubarak is a "Stalwart Ally ... Force for Stability & Good" - YouTube
    75 million Egyptians wanted Mubarak GONE.

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    Re: NATO Disasters Stack Up In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    If you don't stand with your allies who will trust you? And bear in mind that Obama owns Libya. Obama issued an executive order describing Libya as an unusual threat to US security and then engaged in an illegal war against them in support of a UN resolution. He never got approval from the US Congress in violation of the War Powers Act. He also ignored the Iranians when they asked for help and attempted to revolt in 2009. His policies in the Middle East have been a disaster.
    Prior to this meltdown he and Biden had been doing a lot of boasting on the campaign trail about bin Laden and taking out Al Quaeda. Now they are attempting to place responsibility for all of this on an obscure movie. They are always pointing the finger at someone else.
    Supporting tyrants and suppressing democracy is good in your world? It's a good thing the rest of the worlds view of America differs.
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