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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Obama is directly responsible for there not being enough security based on a vague and unrelated warning to other people?
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Wait...aren't the defense cuts the result of a Congressional "compromise" because....well they couldn't really compromise on the debt ceiling deal? Now it's Obama's cuts?

    So Republicans take the US to the brink on the debt ceiling for a silly sequestration deal and now they throw up their hands and bemoan the sequestration? You guys have really gone bonkers.
    He's in charge. He wants the cuts. He owns it. Deal with it.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Obama is directly responsible for there not being enough security based on a vague and unrelated warning to other people?
    Actually, he's directly responsible for deciding that the warnings were vague and unrelated. He is directly responsible for the decision that these warnings were "unactionable" and for the decision to take no action.

    You must understand...even if you don't want to accept it...that the buck stops with him.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's in charge. He wants the cuts. He owns it. Deal with it.
    Congress controlls the purse strings....budgets are origionated in the House. It's one thing to criticize the President for what he does but to criticize the President for a sequestration hatched by Congress and due to a silly debt ceiling debate pushed by Congress is overboard.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Actually, he's directly responsible for deciding that the warnings were vague and unrelated. He is directly responsible for the decision that these warnings were "unactionable" and for the decision to take no action.

    You must understand...even if you don't want to accept it...that the buck stops with him.
    He was the person who received the warning?
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    He was the person who received the warning?
    Well...let's put it this way...since warnings and decisions were made up to five days before the event, if he didn't hear about them...then he has a real problem, don't you think?

    But tell me...is there ANYTHING you'll hold him responsible for? Anything at all? I hope so, because he sure won't hold himself responsible for anything.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well...let's put it this way...since warnings and decisions were made up to five days before the event, if he didn't hear about them...then he has a real problem, don't you think?

    But tell me...is there ANYTHING you'll hold him responsible for? Anything at all? I hope so, because he sure won't hold himself responsible for anything.
    So all warnings for a consulate go directly to the President, but the Ambassador was never informed?
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    So all warnings for a consulate go directly to the President, but the Ambassador was never informed?
    What makes you think the Ambassador wasn't informed?
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    What makes you think the Ambassador wasn't informed?
    Earlier in this thread you argued that the Ambassador wasn't told, only his staff. So his staff was informed, the Prez was informed, but the Ambassador wasn't?
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    And seriously, what was Obama supposed to do? Break international law by deploying troops to a consulate? That was Libya's job!

    Does anyone have any evidence that Obama himself was informed of this and did nothing because he is so evil?
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