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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    the links provided showed there was amble evidence that something was going to happen IN Libya and Cairo....Please look at the links.
    I've read the links and no such claim was made. But, hey, maybe I missed something. Can you provide a direct quote from one of those links stating that the Administration had intelligence indicating a security threat against our consulate in Benghazi and our embassy in Cairo on 9/11?

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I've read the links and no such claim was made. But, hey, maybe I missed something. Can you provide a direct quote from one of those links stating that the Administration had intelligence indicating a security threat against our consulate in Benghazi and our embassy in Cairo on 9/11?
    First two links and the last link
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    First two links and the last link
    Read them and didn't see anything stating that the Administration had intelligence indicating a security threat specifically against our consulate in Benghazi and our embassy in Cairo on 9/11.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Read them and didn't see anything stating that the Administration had intelligence indicating a security threat specifically against our consulate in Benghazi and our embassy in Cairo on 9/11.
    Then you aren't reading.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Then you aren't reading.
    Please quote the specific line in the articles you are referring to.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Violence where? To be committed by whom? The Middle East is a big place and hindsight is always 20/20. There is no actionable intelligence cited in any of those sources that even suggested that the consulate in Benghazi would be attacked, abandoned by the Libyan security forces, and blown up with a rocket propelled grenade. Sorry, but the responsibility for protecting diplomats falls squarely on the host country under international law so you have no grounds upon which to blame the Obama Administration.
    Your relying on Libyans to protect American lives?

    Why can't Americans protect their own?

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your relying on Libyans to protect American lives? Why can't Americans protect their own?
    Because the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations places that obligation squarely on the host country and the embassy's represented nation cannot deploy security personnel without the consent of the host country. American embassies are not on American soil and we can't turn our diplomatic offices into barracks.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Because the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations places that obligation squarely on the host country and the embassy's represented nation cannot deploy security personnel without the consent of the host country. American embassies are not on American soil and we can't turn our diplomatic offices into barracks.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Read your source more carefully. The MSG is responsible for security within the grounds of the embassy or consulate; the host nation is responsible for security on the outside; i.e. preventing a mob from breaching the compound in the first place. This also does not change the fact that any additional security personnel outside the normal scope of security operations requires the consent of the host nation to deploy.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Read your source more carefully. The MSG is responsible for security within the grounds of the embassy or consulate; the host nation is responsible for security on the outside; i.e. preventing a mob from breaching the compound in the first place. This also does not change the fact that any additional security personnel outside the normal scope of security operations require the consent of the host nation to deploy.
    Inside or outside, where was the security??? Where were the Marines?

    This is just another distraction to COA.

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