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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    If this irks you, you must have been extremely pissed when the Bush Administration completely ignored the "Bin Laden determined to strike in the United States" memo.
    Are you sure you want to post this? If so - it shows a complete disassociation with facts or a predilection to just be a partisan liar.

    You should be embarrassed to bring up such thoroughly debunked talking points from Monday Morning QBs.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm not going to derail this thread with a discussion of pre-9/11 intelligence. If you're interested in discussing this then create a new thread and I can enlighten you.
    Nah - I'm not that interested - unless you assert that you have some information that has not been thoroughly discussed previously.

    I am comfortable with the accepted conclusion that there was no actionable intelligence in that PDB. Don't want to re-fight old arguments.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    I'm comfortable with that conclusion, too. Ditto to the Libyan embassy.

    Ya see, political ideology isn't guiding me here.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Irrelevant.We are talking about a direct warning three days before a direct situation...that the Ambassador just happened to find himself in.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokkitsci View Post
    Are you sure you want to post this? If so - it shows a complete disassociation with facts or a predilection to just be a partisan liar.

    You should be embarrassed to bring up such thoroughly debunked talking points from Monday Morning QBs.

    Meanwhile, you're here in this thread, enjoying your first partisan chub of the day.

    And frankly, based-on your posting history, I'm not surprised you still want to back up the choices the Bush administration has made. Especially in spite of the facts about that memo that have recently come to light.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yes...I was. But he made up for it by slapping bin Laden and the Taliban up side the head afterwards. Though I was even more pissed at Clinton for not taking out bin Laden when HE had the chance...how many times???

    But, you know, one thing about Bush was...he never tried to find a patsy or something else to blame it on. Nor did he lie about it all.
    Sorry, Mycroft, this is about the craziest thing I have read in a while. Are you basically saying it was okay that the Bush administration missed the boat pre 9/11 because they got revenge for the thousands that got killed and injured afterwards? WOW.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    It is very sad to politicize the murder of an ambassador. To say that a vague warning about security concerns somehow constitutes "knowing" that a mob would attack the consulate and launch a rocket propelled grenade into the compound is ludicrous. If fingers have to be pointed then start pointing them in the right direction; the Libyan security forces for failing in their obligation under international law to protect foreign embassies and consulates.
    So you trust the Libyans with American's lives? Good thing you're not the national security adviser. Oh wait, she must have trusted them too.
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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So you trust the Libyans with American's lives? Good thing you're not the national security adviser. Oh wait, she must have trusted them too.
    The United States trusts that every host country will adhere to their security obligations under international law. So, instead of being so partisan, take a moment to consider the fact that we trust every host nation to protect our diplomats and have for many decades. Fortunately we don't put the responsibility of securing our embassies in the hands of war mongers who thumb their nose at international law.

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    "How can we fault Obama for not increasing security at the only set of American buildings in that entire country on 9/11 when Bush failed to secure the US against an attack that bin laden was determined to carry out at some unspecified time, somewhere in the 3 million square mile area of the US."

    Uhh...

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    Re: More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Sorry, Mycroft, this is about the craziest thing I have read in a while. Are you basically saying it was okay that the Bush administration missed the boat pre 9/11 because they got revenge for the thousands that got killed and injured afterwards? WOW.
    shrug...

    YOU'RE the one who brought up Bush in a thread about Obama. You don't like what you hear? Start a thread about Bush, then.
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