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BBC: "US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'"

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The more we learn about the attacks earlier this week, the more nieve and incompetant the Obama Administration is looking.

US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'
By Frank Gardner
BBC security correspondent

The US consulate in Benghazi, where the US ambassador to Libya died in an attack on Tuesday, was not given the standard security contract offered to many American diplomatic missions in the Middle East, private military contractors have told the BBC.

The consulate's walls were breached in just 15 minutes, guards were outgunned and overwhelmed and four US personnel were killed, including the Ambassador, J Christopher Stevens.

US embassies and consulates in areas of the world where they are deemed liable to attack are usually offered a formal security contract called a Worldwide Protective Services Agreement, known in the industry as a 'Wips.

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But sources have told the BBC that on the advice of a US diplomatic regional security officer, the mission in Benghazi was not given the full contract despite lobbying by private contractors.

Instead, the US consulate was guarded externally by a force of local Libyan militia, many of whom reportedly put down their weapons and fled once the mission came under concerted attack.
BBC News - US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'
 
Here's a list of the most recent attacks prior to 9/11/2012, courtesy of Fox News:

 
But...but...but...it ain't Obama's fault! Whatta-you think he is? The prez? Commaner in chief?
 
It's mildly interesting to note the alacrity with which the ideologues abandon their disdain of the BBC as an accurate relay of news when it appears to support their partisan obsessions.
 
Yeah, more mercenaries. Great.
 
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The more we learn about the attacks earlier this week, the more nieve and incompetant the Obama Administration is looking.


BBC News - US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'


You would think after the Iran hostage crises that consulates all over the world would be armed to the teeth and have some armored vehicles and helicopters to fly people out should the government of those countries fail to stop fringe elements from storming the embassies.
 
Duh.. So Frank Gardner is a real Einstein.
 
Frank Gardner knows more than most about such situations. He survived an Al Quaeda shooting in Riyadh after his Saudi minders ran away. He often appears in a wheelchair.
 
It's mildly interesting to note the alacrity with which the ideologues abandon their disdain of the BBC as an accurate relay of news when it appears to support their partisan obsessions.
Actually the BBC is just pointing out the obvious, this is no revelation to anyone because there are multiple sources. But even at that I wouldnt be surprised if they left out some of the more incriminating stuff to go easy on there fellow idealogue
 
Actually the BBC is just pointing out the obvious, this is no revelation to anyone because there are multiple sources. But even at that I wouldnt be surprised if they left out some of the more incriminating stuff to go easy on there fellow idealogue

This is really a duhh moment.

 
This shouldn't be a surprise. NOWHERE in the United States has appropriate levels of security. Few if any foreign consulates, embassies, and military bases have appropriate levels of security from what I have read over the years.
 
If the BBC has a fault it's that it projects the government line all too readily. We currently have a Conservative government, though American ideologues here might think it too "Liberal".
 
This shouldn't be a surprise. NOWHERE in the United States has appropriate levels of security. Few if any foreign consulates, embassies, and military bases have appropriate levels of security from what I have read over the years.

However it might have been a good idea to let the Marines defend themselves by allowing them to have bullets in their guns.

It seems BHO is concerned that some Muslims might get hurt.
 
However it might have been a good idea to let the Marines defend themselves by allowing them to have bullets in their guns.

It seems BHO is concerned that some Muslims might get hurt.

Far as I understand it...

The story about the marines not having bullets was false.

It's unsurprising that you'd want to keep pushing the story since any excuse to tow the far right wing in Americas party line is perfectly okay with you, even if it isn't factual.
 
However it might have been a good idea to let the Marines defend themselves by allowing them to have bullets in their guns.

It seems BHO is concerned that some Muslims might get hurt.

Totally agreed, and I'd be all for a much looser ROE as well.
 
It's mildly interesting to note the alacrity with which the ideologues abandon their disdain of the BBC as an accurate relay of news when it appears to support their partisan obsessions.


Spare us the feigned outrage will you?
 
However it might have been a good idea to let the Marines defend themselves by allowing them to have bullets in their guns.

It seems BHO is concerned that some Muslims might get hurt.

1) The story about the Marines have been shown to be false.
2) That story was about Egypt not Libya.

Carry on.
 
It's certainly a tragedy, and they certainly needed better security, but it makes me a little sick to see it used for petty politics.

Why do you oppose American citizens questioning our elected leaders? Did you forget your oath?
 
The more we learn about the attacks earlier this week, the more nieve and incompetant the Obama Administration is looking.

BBC News - US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'

Instead, the US consulate was guarded externally by a force of local Libyan militia, many of whom reportedly put down their weapons and fled once the mission came under concerted attack.

Just like ARVN rifles in Vietnam, never fired and only dropped once.
 
1) The story about the Marines have been shown to be false.
2) That story was about Egypt not Libya.

Carry on.

It seems the Marines in Egypt were not allowed to have bullets in their guns and there were no Marines guarding the Embassy in Benghazi.
 
It's certainly a tragedy, and they certainly needed better security, but it makes me a little sick to see it used for petty politics.

What's petty about it?

An ambassador and three other Americans were murdered and the President and his Sec. of State have been shown to be inept. Those are just the facts and they should be made known to everyone in order that positive changes can be made. If others don't do a better job then replace them also.
 
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