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Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

LOL!!! Now you are excusing the actions of Al Qaeda. How low can you go, dude?

The video has been around for a long time. It's only now...when Obama needs a scapegoat...that action is being brought against the filmmaker.

The article had it right. Obama is telling Americans to shut up.


I'm sure that Romney will release him. Wait, you mean the US won't suddenly become a utopia in January?
 
Well first of all Israel is a U.S. ally and second Palestinians have other reasons to attack Israel you know like Israel stealing their land, etc.

Okay.....we all know that. So then why report they are throwing stones at the Israelis over the Anti Islam Film?
 
Okay.....we all know that. So then why report they are throwing stones at the Israelis over the Anti Islam Film?

Why does the news report the news? I guess no one has ever asked that before.
 
This whole staged event is just one ginormous bit of agitprop aimed at undermining our ability to speak while strengthening the Islamists within their own culture. Why people here are allowing themselves to be used by the Islamists like they are is anybody's guess, but my suggestion is to wise up, learn about the Islamist objective and think a little more about supporting OUR liberal, western values and a little less about appeasing their knuckle dragging ways.

I'm not saying we should be appeasing these people, at all. I'm agreeing with you that this does not qualify as incitement.
 
LOL!!! Now you are excusing the actions of Al Qaeda. How low can you go, dude?

The video has been around for a long time. It's only now...when Obama needs a scapegoat...that action is being brought against the filmmaker.

The article had it right. Obama is telling Americans to shut up.

No the film hasn't been around for a long time.. It bombed as a 2 hour feature, was cut, dubbed in Arabic and released on You Tube this summer.

You probably shouldn't attribute "scapegoating" to Obama unless you are channeling him.
 
Okay.....we all know that. So then why report they are throwing stones at the Israelis over the Anti Islam Film?
I don't know they ran out of other news for the day?
 
LOL!!! Now you are excusing the actions of Al Qaeda. How low can you go, dude?

The video has been around for a long time. It's only now...when Obama needs a scapegoat...that action is being brought against the filmmaker.

The article had it right. Obama is telling Americans to shut up.
I'm excusing the actions of no one. It seems you have terrible difficulties deciphering simple concepts. Al qaeda is chock full of violent raidcals and opportunists that use films such as these as fodder for their violent and inexcusable actions. Simple concept really.

No legal action has been brought against the film maker as of yet. Simply a query into the boundaries of his parole and if he violated them by distributing the film virally, which his legal sentence explicitly forbids. It's also important to note that Obama is not the acting authority in the central California area in which the arrest took place. Still batting .000

Where? Do you really expect us to take your mindless assertions as gospel given the incompetence and general disregard for relevant information you've displayed thus far?
 
If a person purposefully or knowingly commits an act or engages in conduct that urges others to riot, that is incitement. I don't think the person who did this did that. However, I do think it was a little close to that. I think what the guy did should be protected speech. My point was that what he did was getting a little close to not being protected speech.

Oh, but these are "protesters"! (sarcasm intended). I don't know of any protesters who show up with RPGs and murder people, because then the label changes, but since the lapdog media insist on calling them protesters, let's go with it. So I guess those who incited the "occupy" movement should all be brought in for questioning?

The Obama administration are desperately grasping at any straw they can find to placate these throngs and it's not working. Bringing this man in for questioning is a PR stunt for Obama. This country is looking more and more like the 1980's Soviet Union every day.
 
I don't know they ran out of other news for the day?


Well.....then wouldnt that news source just be making things up for any ole reason? While add more fuel to the fire?
 
Well.....then wouldnt that news source just be making things up for any ole reason? While add more fuel to the fire?

Well I can guarantee that is happening since why wouldn`t Palestinian Muslims be offended.
 
Oh, but these are "protesters"! (sarcasm intended). I don't know of any protesters who show up with RPGs and murder people, because then the label changes, but since the lapdog media insist on calling them protesters, let's go with it. So I guess those who incited the "occupy" movement should all be brought in for questioning?.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize the Occupy Movement went on a killing spree.
 
Oh, but these are "protesters"! (sarcasm intended). I don't know of any protesters who show up with RPGs and murder people, because then the label changes, but since the lapdog media insist on calling them protesters, let's go with it. So I guess those who incited the "occupy" movement should all be brought in for questioning?

The Obama administration are desperately grasping at any straw they can find to placate these throngs and it's not working. Bringing this man in for questioning is a PR stunt for Obama. This country is looking more and more like the 1980's Soviet Union every day.

Teh people demonstrating against the film didn't have RPGs.. The AQ came in pick up trucks.

Like the USSR?

Should the film maker NOT be sent back to prison for violating his parole? What makes him more special than other excons and parolees?
 
I'm sorry. I didn't realize the Occupy Movement went on a killing spree.

Who said anything about that? Incitement to riot was the definition for what determines when free speech loses its protected status. There was plenty of rioting in the occupy "protests"...
 
No the film hasn't been around for a long time.. It bombed as a 2 hour feature, was cut, dubbed in Arabic and released on You Tube this summer.

You probably shouldn't attribute "scapegoating" to Obama unless you are channeling him.

It's been around for at least two months on YouTube. Yet, YESTERDAY is when the Feds finally got around to taking the guy in. Do you really think it's a coincidence? Or is it a reaction.
 
Teh people demonstrating against the film didn't have RPGs.. The AQ came in pick up trucks.

Like the USSR?

Should the film maker NOT be sent back to prison for violating his parole? What makes him more special than other excons and parolees?

According to Obama, it was ALL about the film...nothing whatsoever to do with the US Gov't or the American people...so whether the "protesters" were AQ, Salafi, Muslim Brotherhood, or men from Mars, is irrelevant...the film sparked all of this, remember...

If Sebelius can be given a free pass after she clearly violated the Hatch Act, then yeah...this guy should be left alone.
 
Well I can guarantee that is happening since why wouldn`t Palestinian Muslims be offended.

Why would they be offended over the film with the Israelis. According to all the other Muslims the US is at fault. Don't you see them yelling Death to America?

Think any of our people feel safe anywheres over there?
 
Why would they be offended over the film with the Israelis. According to all the other Muslims the US is at fault. Don't you see them yelling Death to America?

Think any of our people feel safe anywheres over there?

Like I said before Israel is an ally to the U.S. and it's just another thing they can add to their long list of things to protest about.
 
Hare used the phrase "explicitly encouraged and fanned the flames of violence" how does that convey an excuse?

You should read the OP again, the man has a COURT ORDER to not use the computer or internet due to a PREVIOUS CONVICTION, by posting a video to Youtube he could be determined by the Court to have violated his PROBATION which is why he's been brought in for QUESTIONING, to determine if that is the case.

He's not been arrested, Obama didn't order an arrest or questioning because the President has no authority to do that, AND this isn't about free speech its about a PAROLE VIOLATION.

What is there to not understand?

Actually I was referring to his implicit approval of their use of a "propaganda tool".

Furthermore, in a previous post he cited the Obama administration's contention that the violence was due to the movie...and then he says the movie wasn't the reason for the violence...but was only a useful propaganda tool.

As far as the rest of your post...well, you go ahead and believe the smoke and mirrors Obama has thown up. I prefer to look at his record of finding someone...anyone...to take the blame he deserves.
 
are we sheep to let this guy speak for us to the Muslim world?

I find this idea outrageous. This man created a film where he expressed of his ideas and possibly his truth. If this were made in Egypt would you say that "this guy" speaks for Egyptians? I do not think so. This statement simply does not smack of any semblance of any logic whatsoever.
 
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Just after midnight, authorities descended on the Cerritos home of the man believed to be the filmmaker behind the anti-Muslim movie that has sparked protests and rioting in the Arab world.
Authorities waited until most media had left for the day.

On Friday, U.S. courts spokeswoman Karen Redmond said the Office of Probation in the Central District of California is reviewing whether Nakoula, who was convicted on bank fraud charges, violated terms of his probation in relation to the video and its uploading onto the web.

He had been ordered not to own or use devices with access to the Web without approval from his probation officer -– and any approved computers were to be used for work only. "Defendant shall not access a computer for any other purpose," the terms read.
Restrictions were also placed on him enlisting others to get on the Internet for him.....snip~

Alleged 'Innocence of Muslims' filmmaker taken in for interviewing by deputies - latimes.com


Looks like they will find something to arrest him for. Thoughts? Think this will now affect Freedom of Speech Laws?

This is a tough call. If he violated his probation, that's unrelated to the content of the film, and it does need to be addressed. But yeah, it certainly does look very much like he's being targeted because of it.

Now, if this is used in some kind of attempt to assuage the riots, then that's a very, very big problem.
 
This is a tough call. If he violated his probation, that's unrelated to the content of the film, and it does need to be addressed. But yeah, it certainly does look very much like he's being targeted because of it.

Now, if this is used in some kind of attempt to assuage the riots, then that's a very, very big problem.

Do you know if there has been any word since they picked him up? I checked to see if any politicians had filed bills over Freedom of Speech. So far the only thing I am coming up with is on Sept 7th some Demos filed a bill over Campaign Financing which falls under that Jurisdiction, and the Freedom of Speech Laws.
 
Actually I was referring to his implicit approval of their use of a "propaganda tool".

Furthermore, in a previous post he cited the Obama administration's contention that the violence was due to the movie...and then he says the movie wasn't the reason for the violence...but was only a useful propaganda tool.

As far as the rest of your post...well, you go ahead and believe the smoke and mirrors Obama has thown up. I prefer to look at his record of finding someone...anyone...to take the blame he deserves.

The "Smoke and mirrors" are the limit and powers of the Constitutions, namely the differences between the judiciary and executive branch. If you're going to contend that Obama is working behind the scenes of the judiciary to manipulate or direct their actions, you've just entered the realm of conspiracy theories and I'm afraid I'm going to need some evidence.

Also the film can be both the cause of the violence and a propaganda tool, one can say it caused the violence by being such a useful propaganda tool. I'm not arguing that in this post, I'm just showing its not a contradiction to say both.
 
The "Smoke and mirrors" are the limit and powers of the Constitutions, namely the differences between the judiciary and executive branch. If you're going to contend that Obama is working behind the scenes of the judiciary to manipulate or direct their actions, you've just entered the realm of conspiracy theories and I'm afraid I'm going to need some evidence.

Also the film can be both the cause of the violence and a propaganda tool, one can say it caused the violence by being such a useful propaganda tool. I'm not arguing that in this post, I'm just showing its not a contradiction to say both.

Both your understanding of the judiciary system and your logic are flawed.

The court won't issue orders unless there is action brought before it. In this case that action is initiated by Obama...through the Justice Department. It's all on him.

And in your reasoning behind the violence the tool didn't cause the violence...rather the motives behind the use of the tool.
 
Both your understanding of the judiciary system and your logic are flawed.

The court won't issue orders unless there is action brought before it. In this case that action is initiated by Obama...through the Justice Department. It's all on him.

And in your reasoning behind the violence the tool didn't cause the violence...rather the motives behind the use of the tool.

Prove it.

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Despite the right's whining that this is some sort of attack on free speech, this is saving his life. He will be put into a segregated population while in prison and no one but guards will be able to get to him. Right now it is the safest place for him and the people who were trying to protect him. It also should be noted, this is a convicted felon, and no they do not have the rights of free people. This is not a regular citizen who used their rights. this is a person who has been stripped of his rights because he was tried by a jury of his peers and found guilty of a crime. Yes, we do strip those people of their rights, and yes they do have many of the freedoms you and i have restricted when they are out on parole. Comparing him to a frree US citizen with no convictions would be completely wrong as it is an entirely different argyument on whether or not the probation and parole departments can restrict the freedoms of people who fall under their authority.

I have a feeling despite the removal of his freedoms this guy is probably happy to be going back to prison. Considering he was pretty much a prisoner in his home anyway, it is probably a great idea to go to jail for a bit, let things cool off, and try for a discrete release and possibly going into hiding with the government's assistance and permission later. Given that the terms of his early release prohibit him from assuming another identity it would be impossible for him to go into hiding without violating the terms of his release, which would add more time to his original sentence anyway.
 
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