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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    So I still have a right to say the film is trash and shame on that SOB for insulting Muslims, making Americans look like dolts and putting us at risk?

    This idiot Egyptian doesn't speak for me.

    To claim that the film creator had placed American lives at risk is highly misleading.
    No matter how wrong and hateful the message his film presents he can't be blamed with the reaction of those barbaric, fanatic idiots.
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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    For an example of Obama trying to pass the buck...as is his habit...I give you the following:

    White House press secretary Jay Carney said Friday the violent protests throughout the Middle East are not directed at the United States or U.S. policy but are a response to a YouTube video:

    CARNEY: We also need to understand that this is a fairly volatile situation and it is in response not to United States policy, and not to, obviously, the administration, or the American people, but it is in response to a video, a film that we have judged to be be reprehensible and disgusting. That in no way justifies any violent reaction to it, but this is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy, this is in response to a video that is offensive to Muslims.

    Again, this is not in any way justifying violence, and we have spoken very clearly out against that and condemned it. And the president is making sure in his conversations with leaders around the region that they are committed as hosts to diplomatic facilities to protect both personnel and buildings and other facilities that are part of the U.S. representation in those countries.
    http://freebeacon.com/carney-protest...united-states/
    The unspun reality is better expressed here:

    Carney’s comments lie outside the range of plausible spin, even by Obama administration standards, and if his bosses believe them—as we fear they do—are simply delusional. But they are not without consequence. Nor are Gates’s and Dempsey’s phone calls. They all send the message to America’s enemies that if you kill our diplomats and lay siege to the our embassies, the first move the American government will make is to denounce .  .  . Americans. Our leaders apparently believe that the way to protect Americans from extremists and terrorists abroad is to tell other Americans to shut up.

    What’s next? Where does it go from here? There are more than 300 million ways in which Americans expressing themselves might give offense to those who make it their business to be offended. Maybe it’s some other film, maybe it’s a book or even just a tossed-off phrase that our enemies might seize on to galvanize support for their causes. Is the White House going to put every American crank on speed-dial so it can tell them to shut up whenever a mob gathers outside a U.S. embassy or consulate?

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    A president who began his tenure by going to Cairo to say he considered it his “responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear” should not be surprised that the U.S. embassy in Cairo tweets similar apologetics while it is under siege.

    It would be nice to have an American administration that stood up for America, for its people and its principles. It would also make the world far less dangerous for Americans—and for decent people of all faiths.
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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post

    This idiot Egyptian doesn't speak for me.

    It does stand to reason that a Coptic Christian would not speak for a Wahhabist.
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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    So I still have a right to say the film is trash and shame on that SOB for insulting Muslims, making Americans look like dolts and putting us at risk?

    This idiot Egyptian doesn't speak for me.

    Hate speech is NOT anything, because there is no such thing.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    For an example of Obama trying to pass the buck...as is his habit...I give you the following:



    The unspun reality is better expressed here:
    Carney cited official releases from Al qaeda operatives directing muslims to kill soldiers as revenge for the film in question, and you label it as spin. You then proceed to cite an opinion piece from the Weekly Standard of all places as an example of empirical, non opinionated truth, when it is in fact, anything but.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    It does stand to reason that a Coptic Christian would not speak for a Wahhabist.
    I am really tired of your lies....... Why are you so insecure?

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hate speech is NOT anything, because there is no such thing.
    Actually, there is.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hate speech is NOT anything, because there is no such thing.
    Of course there is... Don't you realize that you have the right to condemn the movie AND the violence... or are we sheep to let this guy speak for us to the Muslim world?

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hate speech is NOT anything, because there is no such thing.
    Speech which is used as incitement to riot is not protected speech

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Carney cited official releases from Al qaeda operatives directing muslims to kill soldiers as revenge for the film in question, and you label it as spin. You then proceed to cite an opinion piece from the Weekly Standard of all places as an example of empirical, non opinionated truth, when it is in fact, anything but.
    Oh...now we are to believe Al Qaeda??? Good god...

    I get my information from a lot of sources...even liberal sources. I look beyond their spin for the kernels of truth and formulate my own opinion based on such information. The Weekly Standard article expresses the truth as we've seen from this latest government action against the filmmaker. The government's message is very clear in this - Americans...shut up.
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