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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Or how about, where's the condemnation of Jimmy Carter who signed in the original Patriot Act (FISA)?

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post


    Just after midnight, authorities descended on the Cerritos home of the man believed to be the filmmaker behind the anti-Muslim movie that has sparked protests and rioting in the Arab world.
    Authorities waited until most media had left for the day.

    On Friday, U.S. courts spokeswoman Karen Redmond said the Office of Probation in the Central District of California is reviewing whether Nakoula, who was convicted on bank fraud charges, violated terms of his probation in relation to the video and its uploading onto the web.

    He had been ordered not to own or use devices with access to the Web without approval from his probation officer - and any approved computers were to be used for work only. "Defendant shall not access a computer for any other purpose," the terms read.
    Restrictions were also placed on him enlisting others to get on the Internet for him.....snip~

    Alleged 'Innocence of Muslims' filmmaker taken in for interviewing by deputies - latimes.com


    Looks like they will find something to arrest him for. Thoughts? Think this will now affect Freedom of Speech Laws?
    No.

    He wasn't arrested based on his freedom of speech.

    Rather he was arrested for a parole violation.

    Which is perfectly legal and constitutional.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No.

    He wasn't arrested based on his freedom of speech.

    Rather he was arrested for a parole violation.

    Which is perfectly legal and constitutional.
    There is no evidence of parole violation here. What is in evidence is that this is a convenient excuse for the POTUS and his admin to placate the terrorists by throwing them a goat.

    Absolutely disgusting.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Again, it is rather interesting you aim such hatred for the seeming hypocrisy of the right on this. Perhaps, rather than just stereotyping you and making prejudiced assumptions as you seem to be keen on doing, I'll simply be up front and ask. Did you have similar indigntation about any Democrats who lambasted Bush and the Republicans for 5+ years over PATROIT who have largely stayed silent as the Obama administration reup'ed it? Or, how about those on the left who are currently all in favor of infringing upon individuals rights for a little temporary security but had an issue with the Patriot Act? Do you have equally frothing retorts towards those as well? Or is your ire simply aimed at one side and thus, in and of itself, just as hollow and hypocritical as the stereotypical figment of a Republican you seem to be railing at in your past few posts?
    You're right. I'm a hypocrite in every sense of the word when it comes to politics. I should have equal disdain for the left or "my side" and I won't lie and say that I do. I'm not aiming hatred at the hypocrisy rather pointing at the fact that this man's arrest has nothing to do with his first amendment right. The fact is the government is obligated to protect him and his right to make his film, and I feel people expect the government to do so with overwhelming joy. If you're going to make films like this and draw attention to yourself you should have all your past criminal matters resolved, because they will be looking for any reason to arrest you.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Or how about, where's the condemnation of Jimmy Carter who signed in the original Patriot Act (FISA)?
    Eh, too be fair, FISA wasn't so much the original PATRIOT act. You could actually probably make a stronger case for TITLE III of the 1968 OMNIBUS Crime Control and Safe Street's Act where we really first started substantially putting survellance law down onto paper. Though FISA was probably the closer example to PATRIOT, as it both expanded stated power of the government in some ways but did so in part to close loopholes where the government was abusing unstated power which is similar in some situations to portions of the PATRIOT ACT. Really, PATROIT is kind of the grandson of TITLE III and son of FISA while perhaps being an cousin to FDR's internment camps and actions with regards to the nations mail or Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No.

    He wasn't arrested based on his freedom of speech.

    Rather he was arrested for a parole violation.

    Which is perfectly legal and constitutional.
    Yeah, I see that by this article here.....but notice my question. I didnt say he was arrested for anything. I stated they will arrest him for something. Also I never said anything would affect the Freedom of Speech laws. Again I questioned this? As Should be Questioned.....especially in Light of what has taken place. But even moreso from the very own Words of this Administration which they have put out concerning all that has taken place.

    Those who are aware of what is taking place.....well then it should be a concern. Remember that saying. To Be Aware.....Is to Be Alive!

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaW View Post
    I'm not aiming hatred at the hypocrisy rather pointing at the fact that this man's arrest has nothing to do with his first amendment right.
    Where have I suggested otherwise? As long as the charges aren't trumped up, it semes he's getting arrested for legitimate voilations of the law. Don't do something stupid to bring attention to yourself when you're breaking the law, that's not smart.

    My only issue was with those suggesting that his comments were hate speech and thus shouldn't be protected comments. I haven't spoke a peep against the notion he's got pulled in for parole violations.

    It's the same kind of reasoning behind why I firmly am against laws that would keep Fred Phelps from saying the vile **** he spews.....but would likely be the prime candidate for jury nullification if I was one of the 12 on the jury during a case where someone beat him to a bloody pulp.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There is no evidence of parole violation here. What is in evidence is that this is a convenient excuse for the POTUS and his admin to placate the terrorists by throwing them a goat.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    No evidence needs to be presented to a judge or any court in order to issue an arrest warrant for parolees, that's done by their parole officer and a board or set policy will decide if in fact they have violated terms or conditions of their parole and the state doc or federal bop will decide when they get released.

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaW View Post
    No evidence needs to be presented to a judge or any court in order to issue an arrest warrant for parolees, that's done by their parole officer and a board or set policy will decide if in fact they have violated terms or conditions of their parole and the state doc or federal bop will decide when they get released.
    So then why did the Feds get involved in a State Case again that was Administered thru the Legal System, which involved a conviction, time and release with conditions of probation again?

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    Re: Alleged "Innocence of Muslims Flim Director Taken in for Questioning.....

    This is not blocking freedom of speech. They are simply bringing him in to analyze if he broke his parole. It would be violation of freedom of speech if the video was taken down by the government.


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