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Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

Excuse me I was in the Army for 12 years and served in Iraq...I am VERY much aware of how these things work.

The one treating this like a game is YOU and those that think bombing mosques will calm things down.
And me for twenty.

I never once said destroying mosques would calm things down. That is just good policy. The even application of good policy will reduce attacks against the US, its people and its property. If it doesn't then we have not killed enough of them.
 
What research?

Like I'll point to Guns, Germs, and Steel and Why The West Rules and you'll point to...?
LOL. You are going to point to a book (excuse me two books)? Awesome. I have already pointed to at least a dozen volumes. Nice try though.
 
I am interested in your thought process. How would destroying those places where the attacks were planned, supported and staged from make the problem worse?

Mainly because everyone else would say America is now bombing mosques which could possibly kill innocent people and they hate Muslims. This would spark even more protests and violence against the U.S and all the Muslims that before had no problem with America and weren't participating will now.
 
And me for twenty.

I never once said destroying mosques would calm things down. That is just good policy. The even application of good policy will reduce attacks against the US, its people and its property. If it doesn't then we have not killed enough of them.

This crap is sounding more and more like something Himmler would say.Seriously man,the last thing I want to do is compare a fellow conservative to a Nazi....But damn this is getting absurd.
 
LOL. You are going to point to a book (excuse me two books)? Awesome. I have already pointed to at least a dozen volumes. Nice try though.
Ummm...nothing you pointed to was actually an analysis on why Europe ruled the world.
 
Mainly because everyone else would say America is now bombing mosques which could possibly kill innocent people and they hate Muslims. This would spark even more protests and violence against the U.S and all the Muslims that before had no problem with America and weren't participating will now.
That sounds, um, status quo to me. How does it make it worse?

So what if we hate Muslims? Shouldn't we hate the people who attack us? Or do you prefer Kum-ba-yah?

 
Ummm...nothing you pointed to was actually an analysis on why Europe ruled the world.
They did for a while. My answer to that question is actually a subset of my first answer. Free market capitalism existed before Adam Smith observed and described it. I would say the subset going all the way back to Greece was comparative freedom. Those places that were more free were also more prosperous and more inventive. It is a simple concept really.
 
This crap is sounding more and more like something Himmler would say.Seriously man,the last thing I want to do is compare a fellow conservative to a Nazi....But damn this is getting absurd.
First, it is okay to criticize me.
Why do you believe that Himmler would want to destroy the holy places in Mecca? What have I said?

The Islamofascists are a different sort of enemy than we have fought in the past. They transcend nations. The laws of land warfare say we are to protect cultural and religious landmarks unless military necessity requires that we damage or destroy them. In this case Mecca is a center of gravity for the war effort. Without their god defending the holy places what do they have? They have nothing. At the very least the destruction of the Meccan holy places shows that Allah is a weak, pathetic, impotent god. The best result is that it provides evidence that Allah is a fable.
 
They did for a while. My answer to that question is actually a subset of my first answer. Free market capitalism existed before Adam Smith observed and described it. I would say the subset going all the way back to Greece was comparative freedom. Those places that were more free were also more prosperous and more inventive. It is a simple concept really.

Okay, well research says other facts are at play. But your opinion is worth...well, it's worth something to you, so that's cool.
 
Okay, well research says other facts are at play. But your opinion is worth...well, it's worth something to you, so that's cool.
LOL. And vice versa. Try not to overthink simple concepts.

My masters degree was in a soft and squishy technical field. But it helped me get to where I am today.

How is yours working out for you? Well I hope.
 
LOL. And vice versa. Try not to overthink simple concepts.

My masters degree was in a soft and squishy technical field. But it helped me get to where I am today.

How is yours working out for you? Well I hope.

Again, the anti-intellectual thing. Nothing you pointed to talks about why the West dominated the East.
 
First, it is okay to criticize me.
Why do you believe that Himmler would want to destroy the holy places in Mecca? What have I said?

The Islamofascists are a different sort of enemy than we have fought in the past. They transcend nations. The laws of land warfare say we are to protect cultural and religious landmarks unless military necessity requires that we damage or destroy them. In this case Mecca is a center of gravity for the war effort. Without their god defending the holy places what do they have? They have nothing. At the very least the destruction of the Meccan holy places shows that Allah is a weak, pathetic, impotent god. The best result is that it provides evidence that Allah is a fable.

Mecca is a sacred place for millions of faithful Muslims who are not Islamofacists or Wahhabi anymore than Fred Phelps and his evil spawn represent Christianity. Why invite their enmity? If the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem were destroyed by those who oppose Christians and Jews, this would earn my enmity.
 
First, it is okay to criticize me.
Why do you believe that Himmler would want to destroy the holy places in Mecca? What have I said?

The Islamofascists are a different sort of enemy than we have fought in the past. They transcend nations. The laws of land warfare say we are to protect cultural and religious landmarks unless military necessity requires that we damage or destroy them. In this case Mecca is a center of gravity for the war effort. Without their god defending the holy places what do they have? They have nothing. At the very least the destruction of the Meccan holy places shows that Allah is a weak, pathetic, impotent god. The best result is that it provides evidence that Allah is a fable.

I only thank that you do not represent any important government office.
 
Again, the anti-intellectual thing. Nothing you pointed to talks about why the West dominated the East.
This does not require very much explanation. It is a very simple concept. Those places that were relatively free from government interference with their lives tended to experiment more in every facet of their lives than places that were less free. Everything else is window dressing.

Do the hard thinking once. I have.
 
Mecca is a sacred place for millions of faithful Muslims who are not Islamofacists or Wahhabi anymore than Fred Phelps and his evil spawn represent Christianity. Why invite their enmity? If the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem were destroyed by those who oppose Christians and Jews, this would earn my enmity.
I want to change their minds. They are worshiping a rock that fell out of the sky. But you already know all of that.
All Islamists are dangerous to the West. They all believe in the goal. Some do not want to get their hands dirty.
 
I want to change their minds. They are worshiping a rock that fell out of the sky. But you already know all of that.
All Islamists are dangerous to the West. They all believe in the goal. Some do not want to get their hands dirty.

You need a serious reality check.
 
I want to change their minds. They are worshiping a rock that fell out of the sky. But you already know all of that.
All Islamists are dangerous to the West. They all believe in the goal. Some do not want to get their hands dirty.

What you want and what you'll get are two different things my friend.
 
The sickness goes both ways.
 
YOu seem to have problems with sources rather than what is said by the sources. Why is that?

You do realize that even if the most vile pedophile said two plus two is four that it would be a true fact beyond dispute don't you?

A mature person of intelligence would look beyond their own biased prejudices and look at the information provided and judge the validity of it by its content and not merely where it came from.

And it is obvious you learned NOTHING from the sources.

Contemporary news pieces aren't historical documentation, especially pieces from news orgs that are notriously politically correct Libbo loves fests.
 
Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.

What are the viable targets? All I ever hear id what we can't do. No one ever informs us of what we can do; with the exception of the usual hand-wringing, "give'em a Coke and a smile and everything will be ok".

Being nice to these bastards sure as hell isn't going to work.
 
1.4 million dead civialins since 2003 and that is just in Iraq

The cancer rate in Fallujah has skyrocketed by 700% since the US dumpled depleted Uranium in the area.

hundreds of thousands of Afagans dead

I am not sure what the people of the region are so angry about?

A film right?
 
I want to change their minds. They are worshiping a rock that fell out of the sky. But you already know all of that.
All Islamists are dangerous to the West. They all believe in the goal. Some do not want to get their hands dirty.

You wish to control peoples thoughts, just like yours has been controlled by your corporatised masters in the USA

And you call this freedom?

lool
 
1.4 million dead civialins since 2003 and that is just in Iraq

The cancer rate in Fallujah has skyrocketed by 700% since the US dumpled depleted Uranium in the area.

hundreds of thousands of Afagans dead

I am not sure what the people of the region are so angry about?

A film right?

It's certainly not any of that, because most of them are bunk.
 
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