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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why not Regionalize the Embassies.....One main Embassies for certain Regions of the Planet. Thats where the Buisness is conducted and maintained. Due to the times and technologies there is no need for the waste to have Embassies and Consulates in all of these Countries. No need to have the travel and expenses for all that such entails. Security, Personell, and of course a bit more transparency with the Media.
    But the business of diplomacy is not done inside the embassies and consulates. Sure, we get our paperwork done there, but the meetings are done in the myriad of government buildings that belong to the host country. Just like foreign diplomats in DC attend meetings at the White House, Capital Building, Pentagon, and the facilities of private enterprise, so do we in our countries of assignment.

    And the primary purpose of a consulate in MOST countries is to prove services to its own citizens and visas to host country nationals. Benghazi is an oddball in that regard. If you lose your passport how are you going to travel to a regional embassy if it isn’t in the country you are located in?

    I’m all for more transparency though.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    But the business of diplomacy is not done inside the embassies and consulates. Sure, we get our paperwork done there, but the meetings are done in the myriad of government buildings that belong to the host country. Just like foreign diplomats in DC attend meetings at the White House, Capital Building, Pentagon, and the facilities of private enterprise, so do we in our countries of assignment.

    And the primary purpose of a consulate in MOST countries is to prove services to its own citizens and visas to host country nationals. Benghazi is an oddball in that regard. If you lose your passport how are you going to travel to a regional embassy if it isn’t in the country you are located in?

    I’m all for more transparency though.
    How about using common sense on 9/11? Never heard this guy called a genius by another just a amiable off.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    But the business of diplomacy is not done inside the embassies and consulates. Sure, we get our paperwork done there, but the meetings are done in the myriad of government buildings that belong to the host country. Just like foreign diplomats in DC attend meetings at the White House, Capital Building, Pentagon, and the facilities of private enterprise, so do we in our countries of assignment.

    And the primary purpose of a consulate in MOST countries is to prove services to its own citizens and visas to host country nationals. Benghazi is an oddball in that regard. If you lose your passport how are you going to travel to a regional embassy if it isn’t in the country you are located in?

    I’m all for more transparency though.
    Yet all you describe could be done in area that would regionalize those Embassies. Private Enterprize could be within the domain. Moreover those in other countries would also have to provide expense and set their areas up as to their Culture. Also some countries may not want be but ameneities could be provided. Means Host nations would have their people actually working together to build something for all.....together. See the that which they have accomplished.

    On the Issue of providing services. Perhaps those NFP's that are in those countires could be doing some of that work. Myself I wouldnt have an answer for that on the issueing of Visas other than it may take more time. Which then would give our people more time to check that background so that they know what they are letting into the country.

    What do you think should be said to Susan Rice and others that deny what other Leaders are saying as well as our own intel? What about Hillary? Do you think Rice's Mistakes reflect on Hillary or Obama, moreso?

    Don't get me wrong I don't think all Foreign Policy is bad.....yet when it comes to the Middle East. I tend to fall in line with Petraeus' thinking. That we really never remained proactive and didn't have a clue as to how to go about dealing with the ME.

    Btw now that Hunstmen is out of the Running.....do you think he will be picked by either Administration to go back to work with the Chinese. He is a strength for us there you know!

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    How about using common sense on 9/11? Never heard this guy called a genius by another just a amiable off.
    I won't be commenting on that. Sorry.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yet all you describe could be done in area that would regionalize those Embassies. Private Enterprize could be within the domain. Moreover those in other countries would also have to provide expense and set their areas up as to their Culture. Also some countries may not want be but ameneities could be provided. Means Host nations would have their people actually working together to build something for all.....together. See the that which they have accomplished.

    On the Issue of providing services. Perhaps those NFP's that are in those countires could be doing some of that work. Myself I wouldnt have an answer for that on the issueing of Visas other than it may take more time. Which then would give our people more time to check that background so that they know what they are letting into the country.
    I'm not saying it couldn't be made to work. I just don't see the nations of the world agreeing on it. But good luck spreading the word.

    What do you think should be said to Susan Rice and others that deny what other Leaders are saying as well as our own intel? What about Hillary? Do you think Rice's Mistakes reflect on Hillary or Obama, moreso?

    Don't get me wrong I don't think all Foreign Policy is bad.....yet when it comes to the Middle East. I tend to fall in line with Petraeus' thinking. That we really never remained proactive and didn't have a clue as to how to go about dealing with the ME.
    No comment.

    Btw now that Hunstmen is out of the Running.....do you think he will be picked by either Administration to go back to work with the Chinese. He is a strength for us there you know!
    Don't know. He was a good Ambassador. I doubt he would go back under Obama, but perhaps under Romney.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yet all you describe could be done in area that would regionalize those Embassies. Private Enterprize could be within the domain. Moreover those in other countries would also have to provide expense and set their areas up as to their Culture. Also some countries may not want be but ameneities could be provided. Means Host nations would have their people actually working together to build something for all.....together. See the that which they have accomplished.

    On the Issue of providing services. Perhaps those NFP's that are in those countires could be doing some of that work. Myself I wouldnt have an answer for that on the issueing of Visas other than it may take more time. Which then would give our people more time to check that background so that they know what they are letting into the country.

    What do you think should be said to Susan Rice and others that deny what other Leaders are saying as well as our own intel? What about Hillary? Do you think Rice's Mistakes reflect on Hillary or Obama, moreso?

    Don't get me wrong I don't think all Foreign Policy is bad.....yet when it comes to the Middle East. I tend to fall in line with Petraeus' thinking. That we really never remained proactive and didn't have a clue as to how to go about dealing with the ME.

    Btw now that Hunstmen is out of the Running.....do you think he will be picked by either Administration to go back to work with the Chinese. He is a strength for us there you know!
    Obama will probably give him a job, he has done good work for him during the campaign. Not sure what you call strength, him working with the Chinese to steal IP and jobs?

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Obama will probably give him a job, he has done good work for him during the campaign. Not sure what you call strength, him working with the Chinese to steal IP and jobs?

    I think speaking four different Chinese Dialects and understanding the differences within the Chinese Peoples.....constitutes a Strength when it comes to negotiations with these people. Don't you?

    Moreover i doubt he will work for Obama if he quit on him!

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think speaking four different Chinese Dialects and understanding the differences within the Chinese Peoples.....constitutes a Strength when it comes to negotiations with these people. Don't you?

    Moreover i doubt he will work for Obama if he quit on him!
    No I do not think that is a big deal. Most Americans feel that China continued to steal our IP and jobs during his watch. They probably laughed at another feckless wannabe.

    He quit to run in the Republican primary. Was shocked that the voters were so unworthy they rejected his BS.

    Look the guy is a billionaire or whatever, let him stick to his daddy's company.

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    There is no question the Middle East is out of control and Obama has made it ten times worse..........The man is clueless on what to do.............
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    No I do not think that is a big deal. Most Americans feel that China continued to steal our IP and jobs during his watch. They probably laughed at another feckless wannabe.

    He quit to run in the Republican primary. Was shocked that the voters were so unworthy they rejected his BS.

    Look the guy is a billionaire or whatever, let him stick to his daddy's company.
    Well good thing you are not the one that decides by the criteria. As Party lines wouldnt be appropriate with the call. But despite that or not.....sure beats putting someone who dont knw how to speak but one language and knows nothing about any differences. Seems thats what got us into some of those difficulties. Althought both sides of the aisle acknoledge his skill in diplomacy with the Chinese.

    As for running for Elected Office. I heard he was a govenor too. Regardless of even that. Some just are not Cut out to be more than a Cabinet member or Head of some Other dept.

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