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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Apologies as I didn't make myself clear. I was actually referring to the US President and his Secretary of State.

    They are behaving in a very irresponsible manner.
    Well, if the administration was aware, then they were certainly lax in not beefing up security.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't believe we are at "war" until an actual country makes such a declaration.
    No individual country would ever be foolish enough to declare war on the United States. That is not how modern warfare is fought.

    The battle is fought within the borders of the host country, just as the Chinese have done in Tibet and the Muslims are doing in Europe.

    They will occasionally erupt into violence, just as we have seen this past week, only in order to terrify the local population and to get them to bend to their will.

    The Western democracies will continue to bend, thinking maybe this time we can have peace and live in harmony, but there will always be another cartoon, beauty pageant or movie which will set things off again.

    They are waging a war of attrition, and winning. Their will is obviously a great deal stronger than ours and they are thinking long term, we are not.

    In fact we glorify the idea of "Living In The Now", without a thought for our descendents and the kind of world they might inherit.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't believe we are at "war" until an actual country makes such a declaration, either with threats against us or actual action.
    Unfortunately, this war is not a traditional war. The enemy does not put on uniforms and honorably face us on the field of battle. This is a "guerrilla" type war. It is a war without national boundaries or front lines or lines of conflict. But, there is an enemy who is taking deadly actions in an attempt to destroy us and our allies.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, if the administration was aware, then they were certainly lax in not beefing up security.
    Their subsequent statements and reactions were completely inappropriate as well.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, if the administration was aware, then they were certainly lax in not beefing up security.
    They were lax in not having greater security in that region in the first place. Also they derelict in their duties and negligent by not only not having proper security in place but by limiting the ability of available security to respond and deal with the threat. 100 Marines at each location is not security but additional bodies if you do not give them ammunition and the ability to shoot back.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Unfortunately, this war is not a traditional war. The enemy does not put on uniforms and honorably face us on the field of battle. This is a "guerrilla" type war. It is a war without national boundaries or front lines or lines of conflict. But, there is an enemy who is taking deadly actions in an attempt to destroy us and our allies.
    And what if we just left them to themselves? No more money or anything else from us.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    I haven't heard of any Muslims who live in our country acting out violently.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Western democracies will continue to bend, thinking maybe this time we can have peace and live in harmony, but there will always be another cartoon, beauty pageant or movie which will set things off again.
    Many of them thought the same thing about Hitler until he bombed and invaded them. Didn't work then, isn't going to work now.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I haven't heard of any Muslims who live in our country acting out violently.
    Really? Wow. Lets see, the last I remember, but there may be others, was some that were trying to explode a car bomb in Time Square. Then the ones that planed to bomb subways (the trains, not the restaurant). And those are only the ones we have heard about. No telling how many plots have been stopped in the last 10+ years.

    Or do you mean in response to the movie? No, to my knowledge, so far there have been none, but then here there is no meaningful central location for them to gather at other than the White House or maybe the Capital Building, yeah, good luck getting anything near them.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Many of them thought the same thing about Hitler until he bombed and invaded them. Didn't work then, isn't going to work now.
    I think you guys are getting a bit carried away. These guys do not have the kind of army that Hitler had. These guys are amateurs, not very well trained, probably kill more of their own than ours. They have had success unfortunately (such as 9-11). Their countries should do something about them, and we should protect ourselves. We should just have nothing to do with countries who do not crack down on these activities. No more embassies or dealing with them at all until they take steps to control their own. I see NO need to have a "war" over this.

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