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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is not necessary to kill every Muslim in every country, just as it was not necessary to kill every German and every Italian during WWII.

    You only must do what it takes to make them stop, and telling Americans not to make films, while at the same time praising Islam, is not the way to go.
    Don't misunderstand. I am not "praising" anyone. I just don't want us going to war over something like this particular situation, or bombing other innocent people.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    What country was harboring those responsible for 911, Iraq of Afghanistan?
    You'll need to stop thinking in terms of national borders if you want a better understanding of what's going on in the world.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    When it swept here in Sydney yesterday, the police let them have it!

    Thanks God for the Australian police! there is no way here in Australia they are going to put up with that s***
    I would hope that's the case Mya but the Islamists seem to have made their point as well.


    And of course they continue to brainwash their poor children.

    There should be no more Muslims allowed into the western democracies. They are not worth whatever they might contribute.

    Arrests made after police officers injured at anti-Islamic film protest in Sydney CBD | News.com.au

    Australia: Muslim protesters chanting "Allahu akbar" turn violent, spit at police -- sign: "Behead all those who insult the prophet" - Jihad Watch

    Muslim protesters clash with police in Sydney

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, it's the truth.

    I know it's not as catchy as "GRAB THEIR ATTENTION!" but it's the fact.
    No, it's opinion.

    Truth and opinion are not necessarily the same things.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I still don't understand what the destruction of Mecca is supposed to accomplish.
    It is the concept of Total War. The Jihadist are using Islam as their reason for war, so the concept of Total War would be to attack Islam as whole. In total war, there are no innocents on the other side, they are either directly involved in the war or are supporters of the war. All weapons shall be used, including nukes and weapons of mass destruction. Civilian casualties are not considered and civilian centers are targets because they in some way support the war. The last total war, at least for America was WWII.

    There are those who accept/believe that the war on terror/jihadist should be total war. It is obvious that the Jihadist are engaging in total war to the best of their ability so it is not totally unreasonable that some would consider responding-in-kind and that anything short of total war on our part will lead to defeat.

    While I do not adhere to the total war concept at present, our lack luster performance so far, due to gross negligence and mismanagement on the part of our political leaders, is surely pushing more into the total war camp. If we are unable to carry out and win using limited warfare, then total warfare, instead of defeat and withdrawal, is the more desirable option. We are in this war, have been for a longtime now and quitting and going home is not an option, our enemies will follow us, they will attack us here. If you do not know that or refuse to accept it, then you are grossly wrong. This war goes back much further than 9/11 2001. Those events only brought the war directly to our soil, but the war itself had been going on for decades before that.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Mecca is a sacred place for millions of faithful Muslims who are not Islamofacists or Wahhabi anymore than Fred Phelps and his evil spawn represent Christianity. Why invite their enmity? If the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem were destroyed by those who oppose Christians and Jews, this would earn my enmity.
    It seems there is plenty of enmity already if they don't allow non-Muslims to enter.

    If they going to remain a closed society within their borders and insist on retrograde changes within the western democracies, and with no quid pro quo, then we have a serious problem. We can hope it stops and they come to their senses (actually our sensibilities) but that is very unlikely.

    All you need do is listen to their media and read their web sites to see what the goal is. We in the west can assume they all want to be like us but that assumption comes from our own self satisfaction and fear, not from anything based in the present reality. We may seem all wonderful and liberal in our eyes, but certainly not in theirs.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't misunderstand. I am not "praising" anyone. I just don't want us going to war over something like this particular situation, or bombing other innocent people.
    But you are at war. You can see that all over the world. Many in the west just refuse to acknowledge it.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You'll need to stop thinking in terms of national borders if you want a better understanding of what's going on in the world.
    He also needs to understand what G. W. Bush said, not what others believe he said. The War on Terror is against ALL terrorist and countries that harbor them, not just Al Queda. Al Queda is not our only enemy, they are not the only terrorist group that has carried out attacks against the US, it's citizens/property and it's Allies. Our involvement in this conflict dates back to at least the 1950s. Bush was just the one to finally stand up and recognize that we are in a conflict/war, we have been in the conflict and attempted to initiate actions to end it.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't misunderstand. I am not "praising" anyone. I just don't want us going to war over something like this particular situation, or bombing other innocent people.
    Apologies as I didn't make myself clear. I was actually referring to the US President and his Secretary of State.

    They are behaving in a very irresponsible manner.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But you are at war. You can see that all over the world. Many in the west just refuse to acknowledge it.
    I don't believe we are at "war" until an actual country makes such a declaration, either with threats against us or actual action.

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