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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This does not require very much explanation. It is a very simple concept. Those places that were relatively free from government interference with their lives tended to experiment more in every facet of their lives than places that were less free. Everything else is window dressing.

    Do the hard thinking once. I have.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    1.4 million dead civialins since 2003 and that is just in Iraq
    This is a flat out lie

    108,000-118,000 dead

    Iraq Body Count
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    1.4 million dead civialins since 2003 and that is just in Iraq

    The cancer rate in Fallujah has skyrocketed by 700% since the US dumpled depleted Uranium in the area.

    hundreds of thousands of Afagans dead

    I am not sure what the people of the region are so angry about?

    A film right?
    Which one of these statistics is right? Literally, none of them? Afghans, though? Maybe 100,000 are dead, though. From the US? Arguable.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Which one of these statistics is right? Literally, none of them? Afghans, though? Maybe 100,000 are dead, though. From the US? Arguable.
    You are right of course to note that not all civialins deaths in Iraq were from direct military operations by the USA.

    The US defence forces put the number of civilian deaths in Iraq at between 60,000 and 130,000 from 2003 up to the present.

    But you would be aware that the naton that triggers an unprovoked attack upon another nation becomes responsible for all the causulaties that eventuate and is also responsible for the compensation and reparations.

    In any case, even if you take the lowest estimate by the US defence forces of 60,000 Iraqi Civilian deaths at the hands of the US military, this alone is a war crime by any standards. And seeing as the US was not attacked by Iraq, how do you morally and legally justify this war and the deaths of civilians?

    (the 1.4 million Iraqi civilian death toll is based upon the same two analysts who provided evidence in teh Milosovic criminal procedings at the Hague - and the USA was happy to accept the death toll figure in that case, resulting in Milosovic being found guilty. But when the same analysts conducted the same survey in Iraq with an even larger sample size, the USA found the results totally unbelievable and publically discredited the findings - strange dont you think?)

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Good thing some of us live in Australia.

    Let them try again.... just let them...bad things coming their way if they dare...

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Holy cow, lot of movement on the thread since I left last night.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So, again, if you're not interested in American policy in the Middle East, why are you talking about it? I'm not interested in lobster recipes, so guess what? I'm not talking about them.

    So why does American policy in the Middle East interest you enough to talk about, but not educate yourself regarding? To be honest, anything that is worth talking about is worth educating yourself about. That's just me, though.
    Because a particular facet of politics does not affect an individual does not mean they have no interests. I already have a fairly good working knowledge of the Middle East, however, I am not trying to become the ultimate expert on the subject. There are hundred or thousands of books on the subject, I don't know exactly how many, just because I chose not to read the one you recommend, does not mean I am not interested in the subject. And the ME is just one subject related to Politics.

    It would take even a person like the fictional character Dr. Spencer Reid from the show Criminal Minds, a person with an eidetic memory who reads more than 25,000 words a minute, a life time to read and process all books and articles related to politics and peoples related to politics. Since I have other interests than discussing politics here, some of them more important to me, I am sorry it upsets you that I do not use my available time to read a book you suggest on a subject that is a sub-subject of a massive subject just to have one more persons opinion on it.

    Instead of the book you recommended, to start getting any knowledge of the ME, the first book that you should read is the Koran.

    Also, despite all the opinions I have read, my experience has taught me that the average person, anywhere in the world, regardless of culture or country, desires the same basic things. They want to fulfill their basic need for food, clothing and shelter. After those 3 things, they want to love and be loved, live and enjoy their family in peace, have a meaningful job that provides them a decent living and to be mostly left alone by governments and politicians. It is a minority of people who actually cause the problems in the world and who stir up all the ruckus.


    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, it doesn't work well. I've spent 10 years of my life involved in it. Killing is great. Killing can very useful. Killing is worth much more than liberals give it credit for. But it's not the fix for everything. Hammers are awesome tools, but you can't build a house using only hammers. Other tools are necessary.
    Killing is not great. Killing should never be enjoyed and should only be done when necessary. "There are only two reason to ever kill something, defense and meat." John Wayne, character Jacob McCandles, Movie Big Jake

    To any sane person, group or government the prospect of facing overwhelming force without the possibility of victory, should deter them from violent actions. It is only the insane ones that don't get the message. The primary reason it has not been effective for the past 20 years and more is because, due to the policies of some of our leaders, it has not been equally applied nor always used. Had William J. Clinton stomped Al Queda into the dirt the first time they took actions against the US, it's territories, interests or people, then 9/11 would never have happened and the current war on terror would never have been started. Had James E. Carter, Jr. stomped the Iranians into a bloody pulp, we would not have anywhere near the problems we currently have in the region and no one would be attacking our embassies. Had Lyndon B. Johnson stomped the North Vietnamese, Vietnam would of had a different outcome. Had Truman allowed MacArthur to take out the Chinese, there would be fewer problems in the world. If FDR had not allied with the USSR and then Truman allowed Patton to take out the USSR, then there would of been far fewer problems since. China probably would not of fallen to communism, Korea and Vietnam would never have been divided, we would not of allied with the Shah of Iran or many other less than desirable countries/persons in the region or elsewhere, we would of never backed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan nor allied with Pakistan.

    Failure to properly eradicate and stomp on our enemies when necessary has caused us a great deal of problems for the last almost 70 years. Interesting that everytime we failed to do so, a Dem was in office and a Republican had to try to clean up their mess. Since Obama doesn't want to stomp them down now and allows the attacks to continue, then what problems and how many are going to die in the future from his lack of action?
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What it showcases is that you say you are not from Egypt in one post but claim you are from Egypt in another in order to try to establish some sort of cred.

    Above all, it establishes that peopleshould take anything you say with a grain of salt.
    As I said utter lack of common sense, I never said I am from Egypt not on that thread and not in this one, actually I've never claimed that anywhere and I have multiple times on this forum said I am not Egyptian. Feel free to back up your claim with evidence if you know what that is, because apparently you do not understand the meaning of the word live.

    People can live in a country but not be in it at certain times for multiple reasons, I know its really hard for you to grasp so I'll help a little, one big reason during summer starts with v and ends with acation.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Never mind this. Why don't you translate your little squigly lines at the bottom of your post. Isn't there a rule for English only? I want to see what your respons is before I ask a mod to review it.
    It means death to America!!!!!.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Obviously, you don't want to discuss reasonable solutions and you don't understand that it would be impossible to kill them all . . . in every country, and that we don't have either the resources, the means or the support to take on such an impossible task.
    It is not necessary to kill every Muslim in every country, just as it was not necessary to kill every German and every Italian during WWII.

    You only must do what it takes to make them stop, and telling Americans not to make films, while at the same time praising Islam, is not the way to go.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by L0neW0lf View Post
    It means death to America!!!!!.
    Cool, bring it on. But you better hurry before Obama beats you to it.
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