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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    I'm sorry,but this thinking does not conform to reality.Each attack on Mecca or a mosque will create more fanatics and more targets....They kill people over cartoons and cheaply made movies nobody watches....I think attacking Muslim holy sites would only make things much much worse.
    The reason that occures is not why you think. They DONT respect us. We have lost their respect. Respect has an element of fear to it. Fear of what you CAN do. The fear that you can make them PAY a price, a steep price. We must gain their respect not by groveling to them, but by standing toe to toe eye with them and not backing down. Make them KNOW that the price for aggresion is VERY painfull. Make them KNOW that when we are motivated that Barbarians will seems gentlemanly.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    That is despicable.
    If you want there to be fewer hostages taken, then you need to make a very unsurvivable event. A if the hostage taker knows that his hostages dont matter, they wont take them due to logistcal reasons. If a hostage knows they WILL NOT be rescued, they will at the very least go down swinging, if they are lucky they will get free. It will also motivate them to not become one in the first place.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The reason that occures is not why you think. They DONT respect us. We have lost their respect. Respect has an element of fear to it. Fear of what you CAN do. The fear that you can make them PAY a price, a steep price. We must gain their respect not by groveling to them, but by standing toe to toe eye with them and not backing down. Make them KNOW that the price for aggresion is VERY painfull. Make them KNOW that when we are motivated that Barbarians will seems gentlemanly.
    Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    When it swept here in Sydney yesterday, the police let them have it!

    Thanks God for the Australian police! there is no way here in Australia they are going to put up with that s***

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you want there to be fewer hostages taken, then you need to make a very unsurvivable event. A if the hostage taker knows that his hostages dont matter, they wont take them due to logistcal reasons. If a hostage knows they WILL NOT be rescued, they will at the very least go down swinging, if they are lucky they will get free. It will also motivate them to not become one in the first place.
    Sorry, that's still very, very despicable. You're advocating killing hostages. That is disturbing. Very disturbing.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I agree.
    Complete utter lack of logic to suggest that threatening to bomb Mecca would some how deter terrorists instead of emboldening them.
    I did not say destroying Mecca would deter them. I want to get their attention. Deterrence is not going to work.

    But changing their culture can. And we begin by showing them that their god is either weak or does not exist.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
    And how exactly would you gain their respect? Notice I said respect, not like.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    And how exactly would you gain their respect? Notice I said respect, not like.
    You sure in the hell won't get it by hitting Mecca and mosques!!!
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I have made no case against this specific author. I make the general case that if the author cannot explain the problem in one paragraph then he does not understand the problem.

    As I do not have time to read even the books I already own why go after an author who cannot meet that simple qualification?
    Who said he couldn't?
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
    Islam is a political-religious movement intended to move toward world wide domination.
    Who cares if we piss them off. They must be defeated. Utterly. And then we shall have peace for a while.

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