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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Were you expecting more than I have already stated? Was I not clear enough. I make every effort to write at an eighth grade level. What do you need clarified?
    I dunno about more so much as better. Like more further thought out. Killing a bunch of people and destroying one of their holy sites to "get them to think" is...well, not well thought out. There's a reason why the US would never do this, and it has nothing to do with having pussies in charge.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. It is right. One of my heros, R. Feynman once decided to prepare a freshman physics class on a particular problem area. He finally gave up saying we did not sufficiently understand the problem so we could not simplify it.

    If you're author cannot state his thesis in one paragraph he is not worth a serious read.
    Richard Feynman also knew the difference between "you're" and "your". He also probably knew what a strawman was, and the difference between explaining an in-depth policy and offering a thesis. Do you? If you do, why did you transpose them?
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It doesn't matter if you destroy their holy places. That is not where they're born and bred. They are taught at school, at home, and at their mosques. How on earth do you think that will stop terrorism??? You think because their mosque or holy place gets destroyed that they'll just give up on their religious beliefs which have existed for centuries?
    Most of the terrorists are around 20 years old. Kill their leaders. Destroy the places, the mosques, that originate the attacks. Kill them. Repeat as necessary.
    And begin to destroy their holy places until they join the civil society or there are no places left. Either way we win.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How about if someone asked you "politely" to change your beliefs because of what some morons who happen to share your beliefs did something bad? I'm sure you'd say eff off and then some. LOL!
    We can always escort them to the border.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Most of the terrorists are around 20 years old. Kill their leaders. Destroy the places, the mosques, that originate the attacks. Kill them. Repeat as necessary.
    And begin to destroy their holy places until they join the civil society or there are no places left. Either way we win.
    Obviously, you don't want to discuss reasonable solutions and you don't understand that it would be impossible to kill them all . . . in every country, and that we don't have either the resources, the means or the support to take on such an impossible task.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Really? I doubt a billion or so Muslims would agree with you.
    I don't think their numbers matter. When their god is shown to be a fable and their leaders are all being killed how many believe so fervently that they would not gladly pick up another belief system that does not have world domination as its theme?

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And that's what we've been doing in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!
    Iraq was going fine until the surrender monkey came into power.
    And the one term Marxist flexible with our enemies president Barrack Hussein Obama had no intentions of winning in Afghanistan. Ask someone about the rules of engagement.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Uhh...we already started there. I'm telling you, as person with several deployments to combat zones, we need to do additional things.

    Bombing Mecca is funny on a cartoonish level, but we need serious answers, not something out of comic books.
    Thanks for going. Now wouldn't it have been better if you had been allowed to win?

    It is a serious answer to a serious problem. Why swat the flies when you can destroy the s*it pile they breed in?

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Iraq was going fine until the surrender monkey came into power.
    that's funny

    I call him the Great Apologizer!

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It doesn't matter if you destroy their holy places. That is not where they're born and bred. They are taught at school, at home, and at their mosques. How on earth do you think that will stop terrorism??? You think because their mosque or holy place gets destroyed that they'll just give up on their religious beliefs which have existed for centuries?
    You are both right. You have to be brutal and compasionate at the same time. That is very hard to do. It will not take the resoarces Misterverritis thinks, nor is giving up their religous beliefs nessecarry for their eventual defeat. All war is won and lost in the mind. We faced this before with the Japanese, and their bushido warrior code of ethics. They had to face extinction to be defeated, but they WERE defeated and now their are among our greatest allies. To defeat the Jihadists we must convince them that we are utterly implacable and WILL do anything to defeat them. The object is NOT to convice the true believer of jihaid but to convice those the true believer depends on. You go after what supports them. Ruthlessly. At the same time those who do not support them are left alone. You induce fear into their supporters by making examples of SOME of them, NOT ALL. Fear is your ally and will help induce victory. Example would be this, say you find that Jihadists have been using a Mosque to hide weapons and use it as a base to conduct opperations. You then select the day that the mosque has the most visitors and destroy it utterly with all its visitors and without warning. You then destroy a randomly seclected number of mosques either at the same time or over a relitively short period of time in the same manner. If they use a school with young children you would do the same thing and attempt to make sure it was published far and wide. You not attempt at all to diminish collateral damage, I would in fact myself consider maximizing collateral damage. Imeadiatley after you destroy those mosque, schools, whatever, you announce that you will continue to destroy them without notice if you find they are being used for military purposes again. You do this sequence several times with other supossedly "offlimit" buildings structures places ect. you do this with a frequency that keeps pressure and minimises your resource expenditure. The idea is to make being around the Jihadists a death sentance for ANYBODY innocent or not. You make the people around your Jihadists aware that you are willing to make THEM extinct if they continue working with or for that matter tolerate the presence of Jihadists. This playes with their mind on several levels. It forces them to consider themselves and their families. It puts pressure on them to not assist the Jihadists for fear of harm or death. It brings a countervailing religous pressure becuase they begin to question their coarse and their leadership. You must bring fear into the equasion. They do not fear us now. The Russians could have won Afaganistan if they wanted to. They lost because they didnt have the will to do what was nessesary. It is a matter of will, for both sides.
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