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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

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    I don't see an apology here. I see the statement as being one that is diplomatic and used to stop violence. We, as a nation, should condem efforst to offend believer of all religions. That is not an apology. That is a diplomatic stance.
    That's a full blown apology.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    You are every ignorant if you assume our only allies are Israel. Obama is doing a good job, and he doesn't miss briefings. He may not always have meeting with his advisors, but he gets briefed every morning.
    No he doesn't!

    President Obama Skips Intel. Briefing One Day After Embassy Attacks, Media Largely Silent on the Issue The Greenroom
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The only way to lose a war, is by the military forces fighting the war. Our troops did a fantastic job of defeating an enemy that the defeatests said couldn't be defeated.
    How did you get from the above too this?

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    Hence, the military didn't defeat the enemy. Thank you for graspng my point.
    I'm saying the lack of public support can impact dramatically on a Military capacity to defeat an enemy.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Bush responded. Obama?
    Let's review the responding...


    Bush after 9/11... nevermind attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 with regards to Iraq but how about Osama bin Laden?


    Bush on 09/17/2001... just 6 days after the 9/11 attacks:


    The President: I want him held --I want justice. There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, ''Wanted: Dead or Alive."

    The reporter tried to get Mr. Bush to elaborate – as recorded by the official White House transcript:

    Q: Are you saying you want him dead or alive, sir? Can I interpret …

    The President: I just remember -- all I'm doing is remembering -- when I was a kid, I remember that they used to put out there in the Old West, a wanted poster. It said, ''Wanted: Dead or Alive.'' All I want and America wants him brought to justice. That's what we want.
    linkypoo...


    Bush on 03/13/2002


    Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

    Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

    So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.
    linkypoo...


    It took your hero Bush a whole 6 months to quit and hoist up the don't-give-a-**** surrender-monkey flag with regards to finding bin Laden "dead or alive."


    As far as Obama's foreign policy... well, aside from actually catching the criminal Bush didn't give a damn about any more, there is also all the other facts you could read about:


    Obama’s 262 Drone Strikes in Pakistan

    Since Obama took office, media outlets have reported more than 300 drone strikes in Pakistan targeting al-Qaeda or the Taliban, outnumbering the Bush administration’s drone strikes five to one.


    You can reminisce and fantasize with hearts in your eyes about the grandness of the Bush foreign policy all you want but when you do, you seem to be living in the land of lies that had you buy into all sorts of foreign policy hubris and bluster with no actual foreign policy content.
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is just a bunch of terrorists and other Islamofascists just using what they can as an excuse to protest and cause violence. This has nothing to do with Obama and who ever made the video is not at fault.
    Yea, Al Qaeda should give those filmakers a medal for their support. They couldn't have been more helpful to the radical muslim cause.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    How did you get from the above too this?



    I'm saying the lack of public support can impact dramatically on a Military capacity to defeat an enemy.

    Paul
    However, a lack of support doesn't define defeat on the battlefield.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yea, Al Qaeda should give those filmakers a medal for their support. They couldn't have been more helpful to the radical muslim cause.
    AQ was recruiting people long before this movie came out.

    Newsflash: trying to make friends with the bad guys isn't going to make them like us.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because the larger number only disagrees with the methods, but not the motivation.
    I'm not sure they disagree with the methods either. These methods have been hugely successful, as we can see.

    Americans are once again blaming themselves, investigating each other, promising never to do it again, and so on.

    For the world's only Superpower to behave in this sniveling fashion against a bunch of third world religious fanatics is not a good thing for anyone.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Do you think the worlds 1.5 billion Muslims would stand by after Mecca was bombed?
    What do you suppose they would do? Riot some more? Trash another Embassy?

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    However, a lack of support doesn't define defeat on the battlefield.
    That depends on which 'Battlefield' we are discussing?

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