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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    BHO has gone to too many fund raisings and missed far too many Intelligence meetings to be of much use anymore.
    WTF....how the hell do you know what meetings the President of the US attends?

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    When Bush ordered Sadam to be taken out, that created a power vacuum that started a civil war. At that point, our troops were put into a situation that was a losing propsition for the US no matter how it was dealt with.
    The only way to lose a war, is by the military forces fighting the war. Our troops did a fantastic job of defeating an enemy that the defeatests said couldn't be defeated.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Do you think the worlds 1.5 billion Muslims would stand by after Mecca was bombed?
    Probably not. Your point?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    You obviously do not grasp what I have tried to say. Let me put it this way. The Supreme COurt has put limits to the freedom of speech. Study the courts views on that limit. I wasn't stating my opinion. I was showing facts that there is a limit to freedom of speech.
    I grasp completely what you are saying and strongly disagree with it. I assume you grasp what I am saying and disagree with my position.

    The Supreme Court has indeed put limits on free speech but not in the case of making movies. If you know of a legal precedent that limits criticism of Muslims or Islam then lets hear it.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    One doesn't discuss the electrical system when examining what flattened the tire.
    Oh...



    So uh....You're not supposed to do that?
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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The only way to lose a war, is by the military forces fighting the war. Our troops did a fantastic job of defeating an enemy that the defeatests said couldn't be defeated.
    I would not say that's the ONLY way. If a campaign looses support from back home, their is the distinct possibility that Troops will be pulled out prior to any kind of victory.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

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    Really? Because they said so? In fact they knew about this long before it happened. Now they are going to bring themselves to justice?



    Sure. Obama will lead fro his behind and the billions in aid will continue.


    If the US were a real threat to world peace there would be world peace. But it is no threat to anyone because they would rather be liked than respected. So now they have neither.


    "The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the statement read in part. It went on to say that the U.S. "firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."As Americans they should be defending free speech, not condemning it. And of course Embassies do not put forth statements like these without the knowledge of the Sec. of State or the President.
    I don't see an apology here. I see the statement as being one that is diplomatic and used to stop violence. We, as a nation, should condem efforst to offend believer of all religions. That is not an apology. That is a diplomatic stance.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    I would not say that's the ONLY way. If a campaign looses support from back home, their is the distinct possibility that Troops will be pulled out prior to any kind of victory.

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    Hence, the military didn't defeat the enemy. Thank you for graspng my point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The only US Ally in the Middle East is Israel. And the US President won't even meet with their leader.

    BHO has gone to too many fund raisings and missed far too many Intelligence meetings to be of much use anymore.
    You are every ignorant if you assume our only allies are Israel. Obama is doing a good job, and he doesn't miss briefings. He may not always have meeting with his advisors, but he gets briefed every morning.

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    Re: Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    No, I never said the makers of the video should be locked up.
    Did they not "incite" these riots? You said they did:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    It is not appeasing when you are being diplomatic.
    Freedom of speech has limits. When speech incites riots, it is against the law. The supreme court has ruled on this limitation to freedom of speech many times in our history.
    And thus:

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    I am saying, who ever incited riots should be locked up. The film in question was manipulated. A rumor circulated that the film was a major Hollywood production and would influence Americans to be against Islam. Clearly, this is an intentional effort of the part of someone to create tensions in the Middle East.
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