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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    How many bites at the apple they going to try to take. This judge should be yanked from the bench PDQ. Should be charges filed against him with the state judical ethics board.
    It isn't unethical for a judge to issue a decision in a case that has been heard in his court. You seem to be a little confused as to how all this judicial stuff actually works.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Does this ruling mean that all employees who chose not to pay union dues will now have them deducted anyway against their wishes? Again? If so the unions are just creating more enemies.
    Hmmm. As I understand relevant law, if you reside or function within the jurisdiction of the United States (thereby enjoying the benefits of its governance), you are liable for tax upon your income from whatever souirce derived regardless of your willingness to pay that tax. Selfish, greedy, free-rider wannabes need not apply. We have lovely prison cells waiting for those who are unable to get the point.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is this Hispanic judge a Democrat or a Republican
    Hmmm. Another example of trailer-park logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is no constitutional right to a public sector union
    There is no Constitutional right to pretend to be a lawyer on the internet either.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was making sure I had the right judge-He was the first Hispanic judge appointed in that state. The important issue is his party and it appears that his party is DEMOCRAT which explains his RULING since the law is such that his ruling appears to be borderline

    Trying to use the race card is silly Redress
    The poster you are railing against DID NOT play the race card. You, on the other hand, clearly did. It never had any place in this discussion until you brought it up in post #9.
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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I think that chances are good that this ruling will be overturned on appeal. It doesn't make sense that the state can grant rights to unions through legislation but then can't take them away through legislation.
    That would depend on whether the original legislation was enacted for purposes of giving expression in context to rights that employees already had. The most recent decision notes that Gov. Walker's legislation arbitrarily creates a system of separate and unequal classes of workers. That would violate pre-existing rights. Opponents will need to find a way around that.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    just as you have a right to free speech but if you say stuff in the work place I don't like I can fire you and that is not a constitutional violation
    A lawyer would have known that it may or may not be.

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fascinating. why has no federal judge issued a similar ruling against the federal government, which currently does not allow it's employees to unionize?
    are you claiming that it is illegal to join a Union and work for the US government at the same time?

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in public sectors-unions have huge advantages. Why Because often the unions are the masters of those bargaining "against them"
    So it's fine for a few million taxpayers to be represented by a handful of carefully chosen negotiators, but it ISN'T fine for a few thousand workers to be represented in the same way? Because there is a mystical "just something" about representing workers that makes their representatives "the masters"? I'll file that away under Visions of Sugar Plums.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    So it's fine for a few million taxpayers to be represented by a handful of carefully chosen negotiators, but it ISN'T fine for a few thousand workers to be represented in the same way? Because there is a mystical "just something" about representing workers that makes their representatives "the masters"? I'll file that away under Visions of Sugar Plums.
    In addition, the ability for say lawyers. doctors, pilots, engineers, actors etc etc, to form associations and unions that represent them is fine and adheres to fundamental democratic rights and freedoms. But when the average worker attempts to activate the same rights, they MUST be crushed - these communist traitors must be slaughtered for their un-corpocratic ideals.

    And it is these average workers that require protection from the fascist corporate monster that prefers them to be engaged in a race to the bottom and to get whatever scraps are given to them

    Appauling!

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was making sure I had the right judge-He was the first Hispanic judge appointed in that state.
    Actually, he was the first Hispanic judge appointed in Dane County. There are 72 counties in the state of Wisconsin.

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