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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It did on a separate matter. The Supreme Court ruled 5-4(sorta, it's complex) ruled that the method used to pass the law was not unconstitutional.
    yeah, i went and read the article. you gotta be friggin kidding me.

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what relevance does this have to a thread about public sector unions

    fascism is government control. this appears to be an attempt to derail the thread
    One of the fundamental pillars of fascist control is the suppression and crushing of unions

    did you actually read the writing in my post?

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in public sectors-unions have huge advantages. Why

    Because often the unions are the masters of those bargaining "against them"

    when I represented a company in a union negation the union was trying to increase its benefits but it was limited by two things.

    1) what other members of the work force would work for

    2) the health of the company

    and I as the rep for management was bargaining for the best interest of management

    however, in the public sector

    the tax payers are on the hook to pay the public sector contracts

    but the tax payers and the parents (in the case of teachers) are not properly represented at the bargaining table

    in strong union areas the politicians are often elected with the help of the unions and are more beholden to the unions than the taxpayers.
    c'mon squire
    you do know that we have a representative government
    that our officials have been democratically elected to represent our interests
    so, your argument that the taxpayer is not represented at the negotiation table is at best a spurious one
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is no constitutional right to a public sector union
    public employees do not relinquish their Constitutional rights when they accept jobs in government
    which means public sector employees have as much right to union representation as private sector employees
    but since you insist you are a lawyer, give us the legal basis which excludes the public employees from retaining their Constitutional rights of assembly
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    public employees do not relinquish their Constitutional rights when they accept jobs in government
    which means public sector employees have as much right to union representation as private sector employees
    fascinating. why has no federal judge issued a similar ruling against the federal government, which currently does not allow it's employees to unionize?

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fascinating. why has no federal judge issued a similar ruling against the federal government, which currently does not allow it's employees to unionize?
    really. you mean i have been an official of the American Federation of Government Employees since 1985 and all that time the folks in the federal sector i was representing had no rights to union representation?
    that $7.6 million overtime settlement we distributed last year must have been vapor
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Law Limiting Union Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    really. you mean i have been an official of the American Federation of Government Employees since 1985 and all that time the folks in the federal sector i was representing had no rights to union representation?
    that $7.6 million overtime settlement we distributed last year must have been vapor
    some are, and some are barred from doing so. The DOJ, the TSA, and the military, for example. Can I sue the federal government for damages as I have not been allowed to unionize?

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I thought this already went before the Wisconsin Supreme Court?

    That was another aspect they were fighting....I believe....this fight will rage on and it wont help the GOP in the long run

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    That was another aspect they were fighting....I believe....this fight will rage on and it wont help the GOP in the long run
    nah. the math is on the side of the GOP here, same with entitlement reform.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its not over of course...Im sure it will be appealed...but these court cases will go on until next election at least


    A Wisconsin judge has struck down the politically divisive state law that gutted collective bargaining rights for most public workers, the Associated Press reports.

    Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled today that the law, which was championed by Gov. Scott Walker and Republican lawmakers, violates both the state and U.S. constitutions. AP writes that it wasn't immediately clear whether the law was suspended immediately.
    Unions representing Madison's teachers Milwaukee city employees had sued to overturn the law. Walker survived a June recall attempt driven by unions.

    Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions
    now this is the way i like to start my saturday morning, with good news!!!

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