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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is this Hispanic judge a Democrat or a Republican

    there is no constitutional right to a public sector union
    the Constitution denies right of assembly for public sector employees?
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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is this Hispanic judge a Democrat or a Republican

    there is no constitutional right to a public sector union
    He was appointed by Doyle, so almost certainly a dem.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the Constitution denies right of assembly for public sector employees?

    there is a difference between that and having a union protected by law. I believe people have a right to assemble but an employer should be able to fire those who do assemble

    that in no way violates their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

    just as you have a right to free speech but if you say stuff in the work place I don't like I can fire you and that is not a constitutional violation

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    He was appointed by Doyle, so almost certainly a dem.
    I knew that-it was more of a rhetorical question. it appears to be a political decision for political reasons

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Clearly an activist judge. This law has already been deemed Constitutional by the WI Supreme Court. My guess, they get the decision stayed until the WSC hears it.....again.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Sad day for the WI tax payers. Hopefully it will get corrected before long.
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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is a difference between that and having a union protected by law. I believe people have a right to assemble but an employer should be able to fire those who do assemble

    that in no way violates their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

    just as you have a right to free speech but if you say stuff in the work place I don't like I can fire you and that is not a constitutional violation
    notice how in both of your examples that the power of one exceeded that of the other ... where you would think it acceptable for the employer to terminate an employee who chooses to affiliate with other like minded employees to form a union, or chooses to terminate the employee who voices that which the employer find objectionable
    and the 5 USC provisions were established to allow unions to restore balance to such inequitable work environments
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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    notice how in both of your examples that the power of one exceeded that of the other ... where you would think it acceptable for the employer to terminate an employee who chooses to affiliate with other like minded employees to form a union, or chooses to terminate the employee who voices that which the employer find objectionable
    and the 5 USC provisions were established to allow unions to restore balance to such inequitable work environments
    in public sectors-unions have huge advantages. Why

    Because often the unions are the masters of those bargaining "against them"

    when I represented a company in a union negation the union was trying to increase its benefits but it was limited by two things.

    1) what other members of the work force would work for

    2) the health of the company

    and I as the rep for management was bargaining for the best interest of management

    however, in the public sector

    the tax payers are on the hook to pay the public sector contracts

    but the tax payers and the parents (in the case of teachers) are not properly represented at the bargaining table

    in strong union areas the politicians are often elected with the help of the unions and are more beholden to the unions than the taxpayers.

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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    These awful people who look at the law and act like tis. Who do they think they are, Judges?
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    Re: Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's not the "correct judicial call", that's the point. Already been decided by the SCOTUS and recently (the final word on the matter in his universe). He's trying to jump branches and veto legislation from the bench. That's cause for an judicial ethics hearing.
    The case decided was about the process of passing the law. This case is about the law itself. Hint: those are two different issues. In other words, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has not ruled whether the law is constitutional under free speech, free association and equal protection grounds.
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