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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So you're like arguing as if you were a Muslim? Is some twisted form of religious guilt? You have a problem with exposing the abusers and those who use religion for an excuse to commit violence? You believe everyone in the world should automatically respect YOUR religious customs, even when they don't adhere to your religion?

    I don't get where you're going with this? To atheists Christ was just a man (maybe even nonexistent) and Muhammed was a child molesting liar who made up tales to the gullible in order to gain power. To some Christians, Muhammed was in league with the devil. To some Muslims, all Christians are infidels to be dispatched and.or used as needed.

    The point is we live in a world where people have differing spiritual beliefs. But a common thread in most teaching is that violence will not bring us closer to God.
    Don't be absurd. I have never argued as if I were a Muslim.. but I did live in the ME and I know more about Islam than many Americans or American Christians.

    I respect their faith because they have always respected mine and that of my family. friends and classmates.

    Novel concept, huh?

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Mohammed was a messenger to the people of the Arabian peninsula who preached "return to the God of Abraham".. I'm Christian so he's not MY prophet, but to Muslims he is a prophet.

    Want WHO assassinated? What are you talking about?
    Actually Mohammad was supposedly descended from Ishmael (first born son of Abraham). So from one son was born Christianity (Issac) and the other Islam (Ishmael). Christ is a prophet in Islam, however, Mohammad is not considered a prophet in Christianity.

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Don't be absurd. I have never argued as if I were a Muslim.. but I did live in the ME and I know more about Islam than many Americans or American Christians.

    I respect their faith because they have always respected mine and that of my family. friends and classmates.

    Novel concept, huh?
    You've already proven you don't and yes, you were arguing as if you were a Muslim and would be so nose out of joint if folks did something terrible like drawing pictures of Muhammad.

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Don't be absurd. I have never argued as if I were a Muslim.. but I did live in the ME and I know more about Islam than many Americans or American Christians.

    I respect their faith because they have always respected mine and that of my family. friends and classmates.

    Novel concept, huh?
    They were just being polite. They didn't want to tell you that they thought of you an infadel and therefore nothing more than the crap on the heel of their shoe.

    Go to Egypt and see how much they respect you.
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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You've already proven you don't and yes, you were arguing as if you were a Muslim and would be so nose out of joint if folks did something terrible like drawing pictures of Muhammad.
    Yes, I do know a great deal about Islam, but I didn't learn it on hate sites .. and I would NEVER insult Mohammed or their faith.

    When I lived in the ME, it was pretty obvious that I was an American and a Christian, so WHY in h*ll would I do or say anything that would make Christians or Americans look bad?

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The guy is out on Parole for financial crimes and meth production.. He's not supposed to use the internet.
    ummm...

    Okay...

    Is this your excuse as to why he was outed by our Government? I'm not really sure what your point is, in other words.
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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I don't believe Mohammed was a prophet, but instead was a tribal warlord attacking trade expeditions and then empire building by military conquest. Just another warmonger in a human history of warmongers declaring God was on his side to ignorant people like nearly all warmongers did and do.
    Prophet Muhammad was one of the most strongest men of his time,so naturally he was an excellent battles-man/ warrior.Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God be upon him, was not a warlord. If an ignorant tells you that he is a warlord, then you should tell him that he is no more a warlord than Moses, Joshua and David, peace be upon them, were warlords. Even secular people shouldn't really have a problem with him because the Prophet, peace and blessings of God be upon him, fought mostly defensive wars, fought treacherous tribes, maintained his peacy treaties with those who didn't breach the treaty (God tells in the Qur'an that the treaties with those Mushriks who didn't breach their treaties should be carried to the end). Being labeled a warrior is a good thing, or at least a neutral thing, Joshua and David, peace be upon them, were also warriors. .If you take some time to read history(from the correct source),you'll find out that half of the wars done were in defensive and the rest in military concern of a growing nation.History is full of gruesome selfish wars,but Muhammad (pbuh) proved himself to be the most just and merciful of all leaders.

    Only the haters and disbelievers label the prophet (pbuh) with ugly names(but many of them are later revert on finding the truth) ,and the reasons are pretty clear.Ignorance ,jealousy and fear.It is natural for a average man to degrade a person's honor if they deemed much higher than them or their likes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Mohammed was a messenger to the people of the Arabian peninsula who preached "return to the God of Abraham".. I'm Christian so he's not MY prophet, but to Muslims he is a prophet.
    Agreed but he is the final messanger of God to other people as well not only of Arabia.

    "And We have not sent you except as a mercy to mankind"
    (Qur'an Al-Anbiyah 21:107)

    7.158
    YUSUFALI: Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."

    34.028
    YUSUFALI: We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not.

    So as you can see Allah states that the prophet Muhammad was sent as a messenger to all of mankind, it does not say that he was sent to the Arabs only. The Noble prophet Muhammad himself said that he was sent to mankind, not to his nation only.

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    ummm...

    Okay...

    Is this your excuse as to why he was outed by our Government? I'm not really sure what your point is, in other words.
    A half dozen embassies have experienced protests... and four Americans are dead. People wanted to know. When Bacile was contacted for information about the film, he announced to the press that it was an Israeli project, that he was a Jew and that 100 Jews had contributed $5 million fr the production.

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually Mohammad was supposedly descended from Ishmael (first born son of Abraham). So from one son was born Christianity (Issac) and the other Islam (Ishmael). Christ is a prophet in Islam, however, Mohammad is not considered a prophet in Christianity.
    His name appears in the bible, why ?

    BTW, Christ was muslim.

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    Re: Israeli filmmaker in hiding after anti-Islam movie sparks deadly Libya, Egypt pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    A half dozen embassies have experienced protests... and four Americans are dead. People wanted to know. When Bacile was contacted for information about the film, he announced to the press that it was an Israeli project, that he was a Jew and that 100 Jews had contributed $5 million fr the production.

    That's why one has to be sure of what one post here online before just posting!

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