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"Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

TheNextEra said:
The only reason we went into Afghanistan in the first place was they were harboring Bin Ladin. Had they turned him over we wouldn't have gone in there. So yes, the war on terror is not a war on a nation state.
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You mean we declared war on a nation that harbored Bin Ladin. Then why did we not declare war on Pakistan? And why did we not go to war with Jordan they were harboring a terrorists. So according to you if there is a terrorist, that a country is harboring we can go to war with that country, and you call me a terrorist. It is you that is a terrorist wanting to kill off a country only because a few people in high places harbor a fugitive. You know what I think about terrorists, a terrorist is only good when he/she is a dead one.
 
Bodhisattva said:
They enabled and supported a terrorist organization that attacked us... not that difficult to figure out. Additionally, they did NOTHING to help us attempt to catch the bad guys.
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So then we should have gone to war with Jordan. Iran supports terrorist organizations. Hell they are not the only country that harbor terrorists and or ships arms to terrorists. So we better load up our guns and get busy.
 
Born Free said:
You mean we declared war on a nation that harbored Bin Ladin. Then why did we not declare war on Pakistan? And why did we not go to war with Jordan they were harboring a terrorists. So according to you if there is a terrorist, that a country is harboring we can go to war with that country, and you call me a terrorist. It is you that is a terrorist wanting to kill off a country only because a few people in high places harbor a fugitive. You know what I think about terrorists, a terrorist is only good when he/she is a dead one.
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What the hell is your argument?
 
Born Free said:
So then we should have gone to war with Jordan. Iran supports terrorist organizations. Hell they are not the only country that harbor terrorists and or ships arms to terrorists. So we better load up our guns and get busy.
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And we might just do that... I am not in favor of doing that unless and until terrorists pose a SERIOUS threat to the USA or Western style democracy... If that happens I saw we just **** 'em up.
 
Bodhisattva said:
What the hell is your argument?
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I don't have an argument, you step in the middle of a conversation I was having with TheNextEra that goes back quite a few posts. I was trying to prove a point to him and you would have to go to the beginning of those post to understand.
 
German guy said:
I agree, the less extreme Egyptians and Libyans should stand up against the islamofascists. At very least against such acts of violence.
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In Libya that seems to be occurring both in the government and in the populace.

In Egypt, sadly, the story is the opposite. Even if the 9/11 Truther in office didn't need not to lose the Salafists in order to maintain a solid front against the SCAF, it's probable he's on the protestors' side in this, and the populace is definitely on their side.

As for stupidity alone, I'm not sure we're really less stupid in the West than in Muslim countries -- but when it comes to stupid violence, I agree, they certainly hold a top position in these regards.
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See, I'm beginning to wonder if that's not the case, but rather a false conclusion that we are coming to due to mirror imaging. Sure, we think violence about stuff like this is amazingly stupid, hyperemotional, and generally counter productive.... but maybe that's just the way they express themselves. It's their form of political language, if you will. In order to be culturally sensitive to Middle Eastern populaces who sympathize with radical islamist groups, we need to start speaking their language. :)
 
German guy said:
As for stupidity alone, I'm not sure we're really less stupid in the West than in Muslim countries
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I consider myself living proof...

not sure we're less violent either.
 
Zyphlin said:
Unless you can show me something making a clear and distinctive difference between the "protestors" and "those who brought RPG's" suggesting that the two groups were not either one in the same, or happily supporting each other and/or working alongside each other, your statement is rather irrelevant to me.

Mind you, I didn't JUST speak about murders either. Those who entered onto OUR sovereign soil of our embassies and stole our property were perpetrating mob like and destructive illegal activity.
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I agree, all those who rioted are complicit in the mayhem and the murderous activities that took place.
 
sharon said:
It was a CONSULATE in Benghazi... I don't know much, but the authorities seem to think the gunmen were a group of 20 who belong to an AQ cell located southeast of Tripoli. 4 have been arrested so far..

Let me explain something to you.. I do NOT have a crystal ball and I wasn't there, so we can discuss this or you can take your snarky attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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So, you don't have a clue who brought the rpg's and indirect fire weaponry?
 
TheNextEra said:
Nope, I think I will stick to the truth about you giving a pass to your side. Deal with it, sonny.
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So you have no argument to the topic, and want to derail the thread....I see.
 
apdst said:
So, you don't have a clue who brought the rpg's and indirect fire weaponry?
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The authorities think its an AQ cell from southeast of Tripoli.
 
j-mac said:
Isn't that what Berliners said when the city split after WWII into East/West? How'd that work out for the East side?
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Wall came down in the long run...so not too bad in the end.
 
Klown said:
The USA mass media has already decided the motivation for the US embassy attacks? a film?

COuld not possibly be the fascist US foreign military policies of invasion, slaughter of civilians and theft of their resources

Oh no ladies and gentlemen

Its due to a film
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This. This. This.
 
sharon said:
Jones has no money.. This 'film' cost 5 million dollars.

The protesters were NOT the ones that killed the ambassador and embassy staff.
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Have you seen the photos?
 
American said:
Have you seen the photos?
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Yes.. I have .. They were carrying him and another man to the cars to get them to the hospital.

He was alive at the hospital.. The fallen were airlifted to Tripoli by a contingency of Marines. There will be an autopsy.
 
sharon said:
Yes.. I have .. They were carrying him and another man to the cars to get them to the hospital.

He was alive at the hospital.. The fallen were airlifted to Tripoli by a contingency of Marines. There will be an autopsy.
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Then who gave up the body to be dragged through the streets, Somali style?
 
lizzie said:
Then who gave up the body to be dragged through the streets, Somali style?
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No one.. The body of the Ambassador and the others were picked up by Marines at Benghazi med Center and flown back to Tripoli.
 
Gardener said:
It really isn't religion, per se, since it is the approach to religion that is problematical. .
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That's just half of the problem. Many religion's beliefs are very problematic as well. Full of hatred and bigotry.
 
madman said:
That's just half of the problem. Many religion's beliefs are very problematic as well. Full of hatred and bigotry.
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What really matters, though, concerning belief systems, is whether or not you act upon hateful or bigoted religious beliefs, and for the most part, that isn't happening in the west.
 
sharon said:
The authorities think its an AQ cell from southeast of Tripoli.
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And the protestors were party to the attack by that cell. Have the protestors spoke out, yet and said, "hey! we just wanted to raise some hell. we don't know who these dickweeds are"? I haven't heard that. Have you?
 
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