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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I just don't understand the mindset that reserves the strongest criticism for those who make a video (OMG!!! it's offensive) rather than those who stormed an embassy and killed people.
    I agree.It amazes me how many people toss the salad of these terrorists,murders and other Islamofascists going oh "we shouldn't offend them". The only people responsible for the embassy murders are the murderers themselves and no one else.The scum that murdered the Embassy workers are just degenerate pieces of **** looking for any excuse they can to murder innocent people and to suppress the thoughts of others.


    Before some dip**** accuses me of islamophia or some other nonsense of trying to offend or paint all Muslims as terrorists. Yes I know that not all Muslims are terrorists and that not all Muslims are fanatics. So when I say Islamofascists or terrorists I am talking about the degenerate scum that murder embassy workers or send death threats to anyone who 'offends them'.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Where am I not standing up for the principle of the first amendment? I am perfectly able to call these people what they are without denying them their right to say whatever they want. And where am I not condemning the people who carried out any violence? I said they were responsible and had no one to blame but themselves and nothing justified their actions. Did you ever read my post?

    Also I should mention its looking like the deaths in Libya are unrelated to the film, but that an armed group who had already planned an attack on the embassy used the crowd protesting the film as cover to move in and engage the embassy walls. That would make those deaths unrelated to the film at least in terms of what motivated the attacks.

    BBC News - Meeting Libya's Ansar al-Sharia



    I totally agree.



    You're right Gitmo is a recruiting tool, but bring it up here is a total Red Herring. Your line of logic is basically "Because Obama never closed Gitmo, and the left doesn't complain about it, and because its a propaganda tool, that I can't complain about giving the enemy another propaganda too." Sorry but my opinions aren't dependent on what the "Left" or Obama says. Also our Forefathers would recognize my right to be pissed off at this guy as much as his right to piss people off with his speech, I don't know how many ****ing times I have to say I'm not in any way shape or form saying anyone doesn't have the right to free speech, but simply having the right to free speech doesn't mean you have the right for that speech to be free of criticism.



    The evidence is in the NPR articles which where the result of an investigation by their reporters into who the producer was since he used a fake name. You've commented on a story which you clearly haven't read and made yourself out to be an idiot by denying something clearly stated in the story, congratulations. So yes the man may be an elderly Jewish man, or perhaps he's a Egyptian Coptic Christian, or perhaps he doesn't exist at all and the film was produced by 2 or more people jointly and they decided to use this one fake name for the producer role.

    By the way I hope to Christ you aren't suggesting any anti-Semitic feelings on my part.



    I never said that and you know I didn't. Go **** yourself dude
    Go **** myself? I'm not going to go **** myself. I'm going to call it like I see it.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I just don't understand the mindset that reserves the strongest criticism for those who make a video (OMG!!! it's offensive) rather than those who stormed an embassy and killed people.

    Exactly that!

    I absolutely agree with you X Factor!

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The rioters were not the killers.

    The killers were a small group acting on orders from al zawahiri. Civilian protesters don't have RPGs at the ready.
    The protestors are just as responsbile for the murders as anyone.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who are your enemies?
    In this context I'm talking about the Salafists in Egypt who used this film as a propaganda tool, their beliefs are fundamental and extreme and they view the entire West as their enemy. And I'd bet my bottom dollar they were just hoping someone would get killed trying to climb over that embassy wall, or someone actually inside the compound, and turn it into an even bigger propaganda piece.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Some unknown Ocala redneck from Florida burned a Koran causing protests in by hardliners in the Islamic world.

    That must be it...I'm now encouraging the mob by criticizing the individual that came out with the movie. So apparently you believe individuals can have influence on others actions...but not when it comes to the film that was inentionally offensive.
    With racist language like that, you promote, encourage and justify the actions of the crazies.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Originally Posted by X Factor
    I just don't understand the mindset that reserves the strongest criticism for those who make a video (OMG!!! it's offensive) rather than those who stormed an embassy and killed people.
    Propaganda to a promote a pity party for Islam and Sharia Law. it's deeper than just a raid and people killed.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Everyone keeps pointing to the propaganda tool used to stir up the crowd, the film has little to do with it except as an excuse. These people hate us, and will continue this crap. Are there some instances of Christians in this day and age rioting, and attacking government facilities when they are offended? Why the hell are we so damned worried about hurting the feelings of people that couldn't care less whether we apologize or not....Clue all....THEY HATE US! the film is an excuse, and the remedy to this is for America to get strong, and get with the damned program!
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Everyone keeps pointing to the propaganda tool used to stir up the crowd, the film has little to do with it except as an excuse. These people hate us, and will continue this crap. Are there some instances of Christians in this day and age rioting, and attacking government facilities when they are offended? Why the hell are we so damned worried about hurting the feelings of people that couldn't care less whether we apologize or not....Clue all....THEY HATE US! the film is an excuse, and the remedy to this is for America to get strong, and get with the damned program!
    Who is they?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The protestors are just as responsbile for the murders as anyone.
    Demonstrators generally don't have RPGs on hand.

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