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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Did those engaging in Mob activity make a choice to do such, or not?

    That's really the issue here. A video did not make them kill people. A video did not make them riot. THEY choose to do that. OTHER muslims know of the video and didn't riot or kill people. There are christians have had mocking things of their religion made and have not rioted and killed people. The variable here is those who are actually DOING the rioting...they are responsible for their actions. The film maker is responsible only for making a reportedly hateful movie.
    The protesters didn't bring the RPGs.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The protesters didn't bring the RPGs.
    Unless you can show me something making a clear and distinctive difference between the "protestors" and "those who brought RPG's" suggesting that the two groups were not either one in the same, or happily supporting each other and/or working alongside each other, your statement is rather irrelevant to me.

    Mind you, I didn't JUST speak about murders either. Those who entered onto OUR sovereign soil of our embassies and stole our property were perpetrating mob like and destructive illegal activity.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Unless you can show me something making a clear and distinctive difference between the "protestors" and "those who brought RPG's" suggesting that the two groups were not either one in the same, or happily supporting each other and/or working alongside each other, your statement is rather irrelevant to me.

    Mind you, I didn't JUST speak about murders either. Those who entered onto OUR sovereign soil of our embassies and stole our property were perpetrating mob like and destructive illegal activity.
    It was a CONSULATE in Benghazi... I don't know much, but the authorities seem to think the gunmen were a group of 20 who belong to an AQ cell located southeast of Tripoli. 4 have been arrested so far..

    Let me explain something to you.. I do NOT have a crystal ball and I wasn't there, so we can discuss this or you can take your snarky attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    It was a CONSULATE in Benghazi... I don't know much, but the authorities seem to think the gunmen were a group of 20 who belong to an AQ cell located southeast of Tripoli. 4 have been arrested so far..
    CAIRO -- As Egypt's security forces fired tear gas Thursday to disperse rock-throwing crowds near the U.S. Embassy here, President Mohamed Morsi condemned attacks on American missions in his country and Libya.

    Two days after protesters scaled the embassy's walls to take down the U.S. flag, hundreds of people clashed with security forces in downtown Cairo. As the scuffles have continued throughout the day, about 70 people have been injured, among them members of security forces, according to the state-run news agency.
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    That's egypt. That's people scaling embassy walls and vandalizing US property. That's people, hundreds of people, rioting and clashing with security forces. That's 70 people being injured. That's not just a handful of gunmen. Again, you're strawmanning by responding to me and simply focusing on those that killed the Ambassador, as if that was all I spoke about....it was not. It's the entire aspect...it's not JUST the murders, it's the mob like clashes, it's the entry onto our territory, it's the destructive actions, it's the injured people, etc. Those CHOICES to act in such a way are being made, CHOSEN, by the people actually participating in the mob...not by some guy who made a video.

    Let me explain something to you.. I do NOT have a crystal ball and I wasn't there, so we can discuss this or you can take your snarky attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine.
    No, you don't have a crystal ball...neither do I...however it's YOU who made dismissive statements of entire posts with a one liner statement that you presented as fact. If you want to throw something out like that don't be shocked when people expect you to present some kind of verification of such a statement to take you seriously if they don't have some other reason to hold any value to your statements.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    ^^^

    I agree with that.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So you think we should declare war on Libya now?

    Even though the government had nothing to do with that attack.
    How do you know that?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, let's compare. Drone attacks have killed innocent people, but innocent people weren't the main targets.

    Compared to your comment of:



    You INTENTIONALLY want to kill innocent people and you want to do it in GREATER numbers. That is the definition of a terrorist.

    So again, the only good terrorist is a dead one. And if you want to be a terrorist, take that comment however you want to.
    Well gee I'm just trying to kill terrorist like Obama, innocent people are not the target, with Obama's drones he kills innocent people all the time, funny how you give Obama a pass. All I would be doing is killing terrorists and of course like Obama if innocent people get in the way, so be it. But for you liberals anything that Obama does is OK. According to you lefties, Clubgetmo was the best recruiting tool the terrorist ever had, once Obama came into office, it's all of a sudden not a recruiting tool anymore.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So you think we should declare war on Libya now?

    Even though the government had nothing to do with that attack.
    Did the Afghanistan government have anything to do with 9-11? Did they organize the attack? Did they declare war on us? Just what did the Afgan government actually do to attack us.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    I have NO PROBLEM with the film and anyone who says they do should also post their links to their messages criticizing the mountain of anti-Christian, anti-Jew and anti-Atheist films.

    How about raging against the evil Monte Python scenes making fun of Catholics?

    The film is weak ridicule satire and nothing else. But it also has religious "debate" and does quote some extreme language of the Koran and of how it is applied. I found parts of it quite humous.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Did the Afghanistan government have anything to do with 9-11? Did they organize the attack? Did they declare war on us? Just what did the Afgan government actually do to attack us.
    They enabled and supported a terrorist organization that attacked us... not that difficult to figure out. Additionally, they did NOTHING to help us attempt to catch the bad guys.
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