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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Muslims want to destroy us? How ignorant are you?
    You mentioned Salafists. Did you not do any research on them?

    You don't know that Muslims have been committing acts of terror all over the world?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

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    What does "Death to America" mean to YOU?


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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You mentioned Salafists. Did you not do any research on them?

    You don't know that Muslims have been committing acts of terror all over the world?
    you said:

    Now we can can condemn those who are critical of Muslims or Islam and hope that they leave us alone, or we can confront them with our freedoms and tell them straight out that we do not accept their barbaric ways and if they kill 10 of us we will kill 100 of them.. We have a clear choice here because, no matter how we respond, they want to destroy us. Movies don;t matter to them one bit.
    You didnt mean Salafists you said Muslims, while its true Salafists are Muslims and are Islamic you said "Muslims or Islam" and then said "they want to destroy us." I'm just assuming you meant all Muslims and all of Islam wants to destroy us.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

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    What does "Death to America" mean to YOU?


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    It means you don't understand anything if that's your argument.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    I mostly agree with Wiseone.

    And I don't get why people demand politically correct outrage against the islamist extremists. We have been knowing all along that they are criminal violent nutjobs, and that their political culture is severely retarded, nothing new here. Just as their reaction was more than predictable. We all got that long ago already.

    Furthermore, I don't see how condemning the movie and its maker(s) somehow equals defending this islamist mob. As Wiseone said, nobody questions that they had and should continue to have the right to make such a movie. Just like other people have the right to create hate speech with the sole purpose of inciting others, such as white suprematists or Holocaust deniers. But that doesn't mean that I have to like it, or that you take the wrong side by criticizing their productions.

    It seems there is a political correctness at work, in the minds of some, according to which a lack of immediate and sufficiently passionate condemnation of one side is inappropriate, while condemnation of the other allegedly equals taking sides for the former. This kind of thinking is childish, dangerous and fanatic.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You can't define it can you? Personally I have a pretty good idea of how to classify groups to reflect the uniqueness of the situation, I'm just asking for a definition that would help separate the radicals from the rest of them. I don't think you know what you're talking about at all, you talk about "radical Islam" but you have no idea what radical Islam is or who and what groups belong in that category.

    So I'll ask again, who are the radical Islamists?

    Easy. Those who are not speaking out against the actions of those committing the atrocities....I got news for ya....I hear crickets.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    I would also like to know!
    Isa Qassim - "Death to America" - YouTube

    'Death to America' chant protestors as they storm U.S. Embassy in Yemen smashing windows and pelting offices with stones | Mail Online

    "Death to America" chants in Iran - YouTube

    “Death to America” Protests Spread to Birthplace of Arab Spring: Gaza | FrontPage Magazine

    There are dozens such references on the internet with Islamic leaders preaching hatred against any westerner. It's not clear what movie they watched that incited these hatreds and death wishes but it must have been powerful. Perhaps it was made by an elderly Jewish man.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    you said:



    You didnt mean Salafists you said Muslims, while its true Salafists are Muslims and are Islamic you said "Muslims or Islam" and then said "they want to destroy us." I'm just assuming you meant all Muslims and all of Islam wants to destroy us.
    Do you know which Muslims want to destroy you and which Muslims don't?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I mostly agree with Wiseone.

    And I don't get why people demand politically correct outrage against the islamist extremists. We have been knowing all along that they are criminal violent nutjobs, and that their political culture is severely retarded, nothing new here. Just as their reaction was more than predictable. We all got that long ago already.

    Furthermore, I don't see how condemning the movie and its maker(s) somehow equals defending this islamist mob. As Wiseone said, nobody questions that they had and should continue to have the right to make such a movie. Just like other people have the right to create hate speech with the sole purpose of inciting others, such as white suprematists or Holocaust deniers. But that doesn't mean that I have to like it, or that you take the wrong side by criticizing their productions.

    It seems there is a political correctness at work, in the minds of some, according to which a lack of immediate and sufficiently passionate condemnation of one side is inappropriate, while condemnation of the other allegedly equals taking sides for the former. This kind of thinking is childish, dangerous and fanatic.

    Isn't that what Berliners said when the city split after WWII into East/West? How'd that work out for the East side?
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    It means you don't understand anything if that's your argument.
    The meaning of "Death To America" seems quite clear.

    What subtext do you read into this?

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