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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

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    Who is they?

    What? Are you kidding? Are you so enamored with bending on one knee to the enemies of this country that you will do their bidding by trying to muddy who "They" are? They man, they! The radical muslim pigs! I wipe my feet on radical Islam!
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    Propaganda to a promote a pity party for Islam and Sharia Law. it's deeper than just a raid and people killed.
    Most muslims don't give a damn what some preacher in Florida does or what some film maker does.Its the hardliners and other crazies that are making a big stink out of this film.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Demonstrators generally don't have RPGs on hand.
    It's the Middle east....You'd be surprised what the average radical has on hand.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? Are you kidding? Are you so enamored with bending on one knee to the enemies of this country that you will do their bidding by trying to muddy who "They" are? They man, they! The radical muslim pigs! I wipe my feet on radical Islam!
    "they" is never specific enough, who are we talking about here. Is there a name for this group, or is it just Muslim extremists in general?

    Don't accuse me of bending a knee to the enemies of this country because I simply want to know who you consider an enemy with a tad bit of detail, consider it "positive identification before engaging"

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    "they" is never specific enough, who are we talking about here. Is there a name for this group, or is it just Muslim extremists in general?

    Don't accuse me of bending a knee to the enemies of this country because I simply want to know who you consider an enemy with a tad bit of detail, consider it "positive identification before engaging"

    I call it like I see it, and if I see it as bending knee, that isn't my problem...Radical Islam is, and has been at war with the West, and Israel, and the US namely for decades. If you still don't know who Radical Islam is, that again is your problem.
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Demonstrators generally don't have RPGs on hand.
    Looks like these protestors did.

    The protestors in Tehran had weapons and use them to storm the US Embassy. I reckon that wasn't their fault--the protestors--either? America made them do it?
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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    In this context I'm talking about the Salafists in Egypt who used this film as a propaganda tool, their beliefs are fundamental and extreme and they view the entire West as their enemy. And I'd bet my bottom dollar they were just hoping someone would get killed trying to climb over that embassy wall, or someone actually inside the compound, and turn it into an even bigger propaganda piece.
    The Salafis are all over the world and are not restricted to Egypt. In fact the Muslim Brotherhood calls themselves Salafi.

    It is primitive, ignorant, and the fastest growing religion in the world.

    Now we can can condemn those who are critical of Muslims or Islam and hope that they leave us alone, or we can confront them with our freedoms and tell them straight out that we do not accept their barbaric ways and if they kill 10 of us we will kill 100 of them.. We have a clear choice here because, no matter how we respond, they want to destroy us. Movies don;t matter to them one bit.

    Ben Franklin said something like, "Gentlemen we must all hang together or we shall most assuredly all hang separately" and that is certainly the case with these religious thugs. I

    t is our job to defend our filmmakers, authors, philosophers, writers, artists, opinion-makers, etc, and not condemn them for speaking their minds.

    That is called preemptive surrender. And if it's not it should be.

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I call it like I see it, and if I see it as bending knee, that isn't my problem...Radical Islam is, and has been at war with the West, and Israel, and the US namely for decades. If you still don't know who Radical Islam is, that again is your problem.
    You can't define it can you? Personally I have a pretty good idea of how to classify groups to reflect the uniqueness of the situation, I'm just asking for a definition that would help separate the radicals from the rest of them. I don't think you know what you're talking about at all, you talk about "radical Islam" but you have no idea what radical Islam is or who and what groups belong in that category.

    So I'll ask again, who are the radical Islamists?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Salafis are all over the world and are not restricted to Egypt. In fact the Muslim Brotherhood calls themselves Salafi.

    It is primitive, ignorant, and the fastest growing religion in the world.

    Now we can can condemn those who are critical of Muslims or Islam and hope that they leave us alone, or we can confront them with our freedoms and tell them straight out that we do not accept their barbaric ways and if they kill 10 of us we will kill 100 of them.. We have a clear choice here because, no matter how we respond, they want to destroy us. Movies don;t matter to them one bit.

    Ben Franklin said something like, "Gentlemen we must all hang together or we shall most assuredly all hang separately" and that is certainly the case with these religious thugs. I

    t is our job to defend our filmmakers, authors, philosophers, writers, artists, opinion-makers, etc, and not condemn them for speaking their minds.

    That is called preemptive surrender. And if it's not it should be.
    Muslims want to destroy us? How ignorant are you?

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    Re: "Innocence of Muslims" the film that caused the protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Muslims want to destroy us? How ignorant are you?
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