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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Of course it's unacceptable, but it is explicable, and it has very little to do with a YouTube movie. That is being used by both sides as a smokescreen for opposition to US influence and actions in the region.
    At the end of the day I agree to a point.

    The problem that you have on the ground is, some old fella with alot of influence over young folks is using this youtube video to send poor, uneducated (in the case of libya, armed) young men into a frenzy.

    What alot of right wingers keep failing to understand about attacks like this, 9/11 and various other terrorist actions is that regardless of the method in which young men were convinced to carry them out... it's goals are purely political.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Things are spiraling out of the non-existent control that Obama exerts in that area of the world.

    Time for a President who is smart and capable.
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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Agree that the killings are unacceptable and criminal.

    Just like the 1.42 million Iraqi civilian deaths since the USA invaded in 2003.

    Are civilians fair game or is it just embassies that concern the direction of your moral compass?

    Good thing we aren't like the Russians......Where they have no problem removing the Problems of the Ignorant and Deluded off the Planet Permanently.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Just like the 1.42 million Iraqi civilian deaths since the USA invaded in 2003.
    Hey man I agree, but what I will not agree that two wrongs make a right.

    Are civilians fair game or is it just embassies that concern the direction of your moral compass?
    This is a conversation about embassy safety in general.

    If one embassy attack is condoned, no embassy is safe and international diplomacy would break down.

    The sanctity of embassy protection is a universal principle that I will not ever support breaking under any circumstances... even as much as I hate say the North Korean regime, I will never support their embassy being attacked in any nation around the world.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Did you forget Tunisia and Morroco. You do know they are protesting at our Embassies there as well. Just which Muslims are you directing others to look at.....that are non-violent?
    If you want to turn this into a pissing match about muslims being violent, go ahead.

    But reality does not support that assertion.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    At the end of the day I agree to a point.

    The problem that you have on the ground is, some old fella with alot of influence over young folks is using this youtube video to send poor, uneducated (in the case of libya, armed) young men into a frenzy.

    What alot of right wingers keep failing to understand about attacks like this, 9/11 and various other terrorist actions is that regardless of the method in which young men were convinced to carry them out... it's goals are purely political.
    Did you mean the Leadership of Sunni Clerics? You know those Old Guys that barely have any education and was told verbatim What they should believe and how they they go about things.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    At the end of the day I agree to a point.

    The problem that you have on the ground is, some old fella with alot of influence over young folks is using this youtube video to send poor, uneducated (in the case of libya, armed) young men into a frenzy.
    Quite. That's how demagoguery works, the rich and/or powerful always send someone else to die for their cause, and it's usually the young, poor and alienated.

    What alot of right wingers keep failing to understand about attacks like this, 9/11 and various other terrorist actions is that regardless of the method in which young men were convinced to carry them out... it's goals are purely political.
    Exactly. These groups are those who do not buy into what they see as western ideas of the rule of law and the democratic process. They want power and are willing to use whatever methods work to get it.
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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If you want to turn this into a pissing match about muslims being violent, go ahead.

    But reality does not support that assertion.

    Oh no.....I was waiting for you to show me all thes Peaceful Loving Muslims. Got any groups in mind. What countries do these peaceful Muslim walk around preaching about Peace and talking about how they are not tied to the rest of the Muslims throughout the World.

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Good thing we aren't like the Russians......Where they have no problem removing the Problems of the Ignorant and Deluded off the Planet Permanently.
    Provide 3 main examples that support your view of what the Russians are like!

    Surely youre not caliming that the Russians are invading other nations, stealing their resources on behalf of their corporations and using drones to carry out summary illegal executions? (I wonder who does that in the world?)

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    Re: Protesters Storm US Embassey In Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hey man I agree, but what I will not agree that two wrongs make a right.



    This is a conversation about embassy safety in general.

    If one embassy attack is condoned, no embassy is safe and international diplomacy would break down.

    The sanctity of embassy protection is a universal principle that I will not ever support breaking under any circumstances... even as much as I hate say the North Korean regime, I will never support their embassy being attacked in any nation around the world.
    Of course Embassies should be afforded a level of protection - but so should the Red Cross!

    Is seems to me, that the problem is with US embassies - now why would this be the case?

    Why, for example arent Swedish or Korean embassies targeted?

    (and incidentally, North Korea may have some border issues with South Korea, but it isnt carrying out assassinations, drone attacks, full scale aerial bombings and land invasions of other nations that didnt attack them, and then theiving their energy resources on behalf of their corporate masters - now is it? So perhaps your example of North Korea is a poor one - and why would you HATE an entire nation? What has North Korea done to you - let alone to the USA?)
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