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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    The Pastors actions have generated a murderous reaction.
    There is no evidence that this was the case. There have been hundreds of incidents over the years of Muslims murdering innocent people. The Florida pastor is not responsible for the actions of the third world religious wackos..

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

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    It is my desire that fundies could kill each other all they bloody well pleased while leaving the rest of the world in peace.
    That's fundamentalist thinking.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    One would think the Muslims in the middle east would be grateful to us for making them rich from oil sales.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    One would think the Muslims in the middle east would be grateful to us for making them rich from oil sales.
    The **** you talking about?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    And within his right to do so. He seems to want to be as controversial as possible. Still, it's not unreasonable to ASK him to examine the consequences. Maybe he'll reconsider his position, maybe he won't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no evidence that this was the case. There have been hundreds of incidents over the years of Muslims murdering innocent people. The Florida pastor is not responsible for the actions of the third world religious wackos..

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't hold the film maker responsible for the stupidity of others. If you do that, then you open the door to ban books and video games, too.
    Spot on... and as can be seen, the new leader of Egypt, is already calling for those in it's embassy in the US to take 'legal action' against the filmmaker. Those who wish to silence voices they do not like are dangerous people.

    Egypt to take legal action in US against Prophet film makers - Israel News, Ynetnews

    And all the while, more riots in the streets over there.
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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Spot on... and as can be seen, the new leader of Egypt, is already calling for those in it's embassy in the US to take 'legal action' against the filmmaker. Those who wish to silence voices they do not like are dangerous people.

    Egypt to take legal action in US against Prophet film makers - Israel News, Ynetnews

    And all the while, more riots in the streets over there.
    As if! What a joke!

    I'm going to make a movie picking on Islam and see if they take leagal action against me. I think that would be a money maker.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    And within his right to do so. He seems to want to be as controversial as possible. Still, it's not unreasonable to ASK him to examine the consequences. Maybe he'll reconsider his position, maybe he won't.
    Whose going to "ask" him? The government can't do it. That could be considered intimidation and therefore, unconstitutional.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Apparently, some General did ask him. He said "**** off". Intimidation is in the eye of the beholder.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Whose going to "ask" him? The government can't do it. That could be considered intimidation and therefore, unconstitutional.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Apparently, some General did ask him. He said "**** off". Intimidation is in the eye of the beholder.
    Hence the reason it's a bad idea for government officials to "ask" citizens to curtail their constitutional rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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