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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    That is absolute nonsense.

    He is concerned for his men. He made a very controlled and reasoned phone call to sick and deranged religious zealot. Good for him.

    Shame on this fake 'man of god'. He's just another Fred Phelps, vomiting hate and calling it Christianity.
    The guy himself is irrelevant. He's not the problem. The whackjobs over there that the general is trying to appease are.

    As I said, if they were trying to get the government to make women cover up, no one would accept this phone call as legitimate. I don't expect YOU to see reason, but I'm sure others can.
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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You seem to be having difficulty between identifying a REQUEST with an ORDER.

    If somebody was calling your wife filthy names in a parking lot, they would technically have the right to do so. If I went over to them and said "look asshole, Arbo is turning red in the face and is probably going to come over and punch your lights out so please stop" would I be violating the guys rights or making a sensible request?
    All irrelevant to the discussion.
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    I'm at a loss for words. I couldn't have been more reasonable or more relevant.

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    All irrelevant to the discussion.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    as a citizen he should realize that there are many Americans serving overseas and that this video will endanger their lifes.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The guy himself is irrelevant. He's not the problem. The whackjobs over there that the general is trying to appease are.

    As I said, if they were trying to get the government to make women cover up, no one would accept this phone call as legitimate. I don't expect YOU to see reason, but I'm sure others can.
    After the call, he may have realized it was a waste of time. But before and during the call, he was thinking of his men.

    How can you fault him for that?

    The pastor's ignorant and hateful actions will be used to recruit terrorists. That's a fact.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Top US military officer calls pastor over film | News by Country | Reuters



    This is of absolutely no concern to the US military, or even the US government.

    The concern of the US military and and the US government is to make it possible for people to have the freedom to do these kinds things, no matter how distasteful they may be.

    So, the job of the government, and of the military, is to say, outwardly, to these people who are offended, "yeah? Freedom's a bitch, and we defend her."
    This gentleman should be reprimanded, if not relieved of his command, for violating the constitutional rights of an American citizen.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    After the call, he may have realized it was a waste of time. But before and during the call, he was thinking of his men.

    How can you fault him for that?
    Because it's not the place of the military to tell a citizen what to do.

    Why are you even asking? You're not looking for a meaningful discussion.
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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    After the call, he may have realized it was a waste of time. But before and during the call, he was thinking of his men.

    How can you fault him for that?

    The pastor's ignorant and hateful actions will be used to recruit terrorists. That's a fact.
    Yeahm because we all know that they weren't recruiting terrorists before this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    as a citizen he should realize that there are many Americans serving overseas and that this video will endanger their lifes.
    Will it make the bad guys hate us more than they already do? Is that what you're worried about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top US military officer calls pastor over film

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Nonsense. They do not have a right to curb the exercise of speech itself, but to claim that films that may instigate violence against US military and unarmed personnel in the region are of "no concern" to the military is brazen naivety.

    Surely you recognize such a request would be formulated due to safety concerns and the potential bloodshed that may ensue, not simply due to the military wanting an "easier" way out? Besides, since when has casualty avoidance not been an concern of the armed forces?

    Who said otherwise? (Although "working for "us" is a rather crude manner of phrasing.) Does this fact somehow prohibit the military from exercising their right to speech as well?
    And of course anyone who protested the war in Iraq was a traitor, remem er?

    Because it would embolden our enemies.

    Embolden = bad

    Infuriate = good

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