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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

They didn't intend to bomb Dresden?

Oops.

No, they intended to...they just didn't have precision bombs.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I'm not murdering and rioting but am commenting on those who do.
No, not personally, but acting as a cheerleader for those that do using drones and grunts and special forces.

Would you prefer that people not respond to those who kill innocent people?
I'd prefer that everyone who targets civilians is called out for it, not just those who happen to be on one side of the divide.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

A billion Muslims minded their own business yesterday. They sent their kids to school, they went to work, fixed meals or went to restaurants, and prayed to their god. They didn't burn flags or murder diplomats, didn't strap bombs to themselves, didn't participate in any demonstrations against the US.

And, nothing was reported in the mainstream media.

I guess the mainstream media must be biased or something.

They also do nothing while the more fanatical amongst them murder people (Americans) in the name of their god.

The fanatics in their religion are theirs to deal with. Someone obviously has to deal with them, no one wants it to have to be us.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Do you seriously see terrorism as a war between the USA and Islam? Really?


Those in Islam who advocate a Caliphate against the west certainly do.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I think you'll find that Klown IS your enemy. Me too, come to that. I passionately wish to see you and your hateful ideology defeated, and by 'you', I mean you, Misterveritis and your political allies such as Grant, Bronson, MMC and your like, not necessarily the US of A, only until and if it behaves in the way you advocate.
So the obvious is made clear.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

What do you believe would be the result of the USA destroying Mecca?

Do you seriously see terrorism as a war between the USA and Islam? Really?
Destruction of Islam's most holy site? It would show that Allah is a fraud.
Yes. I see Islam advancing itself through violence. Let us return some of that violence in ways that matter.
We can kill the street thugs when they come. But we also need to destroy those things the Islamofascists hold dear.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Wow, it's like you are almost a saint or somethng.

Except it wouldn't be "saint", exactly, I guess. What do you people call it, anyway?

There are some who think that they can't prosper unless the other guy is broken and poverty stricken.. My view has nothing to do with sainthood.. just practical reality. Certainly helped with negotiations during my career life.. if I could determine what the other party wanted.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Destruction of Islam's most holy site? It would show that Allah is a fraud.
Yes. I see Islam advancing itself through violence. Let us return some of that violence in ways that matter.
We can kill the street thugs when they come. But we also need to destroy those things the Islamofascists hold dear.

Pitifully unimaginative... but there are many people who play to lose.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Destruction of Islam's most holy site? It would show that Allah is a fraud.
Yes. I see Islam advancing itself through violence. Let us return some of that violence in ways that matter.
We can kill the street thugs when they come. But we also need to destroy those things the Islamofascists hold dear.

The Muslims would be so pissed if we were to destroy Mecca that it wouldn't be a fight between the west and a hundredth of a percent of Islam any more. The nutters who think we need to have a war with Islam would get their way.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Those in Islam who advocate a Caliphate against the west certainly do.

which comprises what, a hundredth of a percent of Islam or so?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Next question. Did you learn anything?

Funny, it's usually the liberals that think they know more than me.

I have said nothing inconsistent with historical fact. Warfare of WWII was more brutal due to the lack of precision weaponry. The bombings of cities were meant to break the military industrial complexes. Had we had the precision weapons of today, the bombings would have been far more confined to strategic targets within cities rather than the cities themselves.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

which comprises what, a hundredth of a percent of Islam or so?

Actually, conservative estimates put it at between 8 to 10%, but you know that...Dismissing the threat is no assurance to non existence....
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Destruction of Islam's most holy site? It would show that Allah is a fraud.
Yes. I see Islam advancing itself through violence. Let us return some of that violence in ways that matter.
We can kill the street thugs when they come. But we also need to destroy those things the Islamofascists hold dear.

What do you think about forced conversions, witch trials and the inquisition? Would you say that was advancing a religion through violence?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

What do you think about forced conversions, witch trials and the inquisition? Would you say that was advancing a religion through violence?

Thought you might be interested in knowing that Media for Christ which broadcasts all over the ME is where the anti-muslim film was made and that is affiliated with Jihad Watch.. So you have mixed business initiatives and a non profit charity controlled by David Horowitz, Pam Geller, Robert Spenser, Steve Klein and Morris Sadek.

Media for Christ calls itself Evangelical Christian media.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Actually, conservative estimates put it at between 8 to 10%, but you know that...Dismissing the threat is no assurance to non existence....

Ten percent of a billion Muslims is 100 million people.

Hardly.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Destruction of Islam's most holy site? It would show that Allah is a fraud.
Yes. I see Islam advancing itself through violence. Let us return some of that violence in ways that matter.
We can kill the street thugs when they come. But we also need to destroy those things the Islamofascists hold dear.

That would be a very, very bad idea.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The Muslims would be so pissed if we were to destroy Mecca that it wouldn't be a fight between the west and a hundredth of a percent of Islam any more. The nutters who think we need to have a war with Islam would get their way.
Your last first. We already have a war with Islam. They have been waging it against the west for a very long time. Now it is time for us to reciprocate.

For each bad behavior we take another holy site.
We would have to rid ourselves of the Muslims in the West.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Thought you might be interested in knowing that Media for Christ which broadcasts all over the ME is where the anti-muslim film was made and that is affiliated with Jihad Watch.. So you have mixed business initiatives and a non profit charity controlled by David Horowitz, Pam Geller, Robert Spenser, Steve Klein and Morris Sadek.

Media for Christ calls itself Evangelical Christian media.

Guy pokes tiger, tiger mauls guy. Who's fault is it, the tiger's or the guy's?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Funny, it's usually the liberals that think they know more than me.

I have said nothing inconsistent with historical fact. Warfare of WWII was more brutal due to the lack of precision weaponry. The bombings of cities were meant to break the military industrial complexes. Had we had the precision weapons of today, the bombings would have been far more confined to strategic targets within cities rather than the cities themselves.
LOL. I cannot tell if I know more than you or not.

WWII was brutal because it was total war. We have not fought another total war since WWII. Every war we have been involved in has been limited.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

What do you think about forced conversions, witch trials and the inquisition? Would you say that was advancing a religion through violence?
Personally, I like them. I prefer forced conversions to killings. The rest of your questions were mere piffle.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Your last first. We already have a war with Islam. They have been waging it against the west for a very long time. Now it is time for us to reciprocate.

For each bad behavior we take another holy site.
We would have to rid ourselves of the Muslims in the West.

So, your suggestion for fighting radical Islam is destroying Mecca, the holy site of ALL Muslims?

You know by doing that, it would probably put the United States in much, much more danger that is has been in, right?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

LOL. I cannot tell if I know more than you or not.

WWII was brutal because it was total war. We have not fought another total war since WWII. Every war we have been involved in has been limited.

It was total war because we lacked absolute weaponry superiority. As a result, we had to throw everything we had into it. Nowadays, we have absolute weapon superiority...which is why we've lost less people in over ten years, in two wars, then allied forces lost in Normandy.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So, your suggestion for fighting radical Islam is destroying Mecca, the holy site of ALL Muslims?

You know by doing that, it would probably put the United States in much, much more danger that is has been in, right?
Can you imagine the shock in a billion people's hearts when they realize their god is a mere fable?

We need only destroy the holy places of Mecca.
We will lose the long term war to Islam if we do nothing. Look at the numbers of people who post attitudes of surrender so we do not offend Muslims. No. We need a dramatic gesture.

What idea do you put forward for us to consider?
 
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