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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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Klown said:
I didnt realise that the Taliban were responsible for 9/11?
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Who's talking about 9/11?

Paul
 
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Higgins86 said:
finally watched parts of the "movie" that has caused these events and I would like to withdraw my statements yesterday when I said the American gov should do more to stop hate speech as it endangers the troops. I withdraw that statement because the video is so bad that im honestly shocked Arab Muslims are taking it seriously!
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I think you're wrong. I think it works just fine as an excuse for extremist elements, demagogues and psychopaths to keep on keeping on. This video has never been a cause of the unrest, just an excuse for it. I suspect not more than 1-in-30 of the demonstrators supposedly outraged by it have actually seen it.
 
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Andalublue said:
I think you're wrong. I think it works just fine as an excuse for extremist elements, demagogues and psychopaths to keep on keeping on. This video has never been a cause of the unrest, just an excuse for it. I suspect not more than 1-in-30 of the demonstrators supposedly outraged by it have actually seen it.
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Nuts.. Look at how incensed some Americans were over TeleTubbies, the Passion of the Christ, the Harry Potter Books and the Davinci Code.
 
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TurtleDude said:
why are you trying to justify the murders a bunch of idiot radical muslims perpetuated. Someone should be able to make movies about their prophet having sex with camels and that would not justify ANY Violence and those who did become violent should be exterminated for being violent criminals. NO Christians rioted and killed people when some artist put a crucifix in urine. No anglican priest shot Ian Anderson when he sang songs like "MY GOD" which lambastes "the bloody church of england in chains on history"

Jews have been smeared in movies for years-it goes back to plays with "Shylock" the greedy Jew. They aren't killing people

THe sad fact is-its a sizable number of Muslims that go bonkers when their prophet is smeared =or in many cases-depicted truthfully and there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for that sort of idiocy
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Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room. You think all this violence across the MENA area is just about people being hyper-sensitive to religious insults? You think it has nothing to do with western interference, the propping up of authoritarian military dictatorships, the geo-politics of oil, or drone attacks on civilians? Nah! Must be all about cartoons of Mohammed.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Who were we killing in Libya and Egypt?
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Well, you/we propped up Mubarak, Sadat even Gadaffi for decades. I think the peoples of those countries see the US as complicit in those years of repression, murder and corruption, and they're not entirely wrong.
 
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sharon said:
Nuts.. Look at how incensed some Americans were over TeleTubbies, the Passion of the Christ, the Harry Potter Books and the Davinci Code.
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Well, you ignored my earlier questions to you, so I doubt that you will honestly respond to this one but it should be pointed out anyway....Tell me Sharon, of those Americans mad about the things you outlined above, how many attacked those they felt responsible for them? How many did they kill? Were there even any protests in the streets over these things? No.

Your comparison is some sort of flawed moral relativism, that is frankly laughable.
 
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Andalublue said:
Well, you/we propped up Mubarak, Sadat even Gadaffi for decades. I think the peoples of those countries see the US as complicit in those years of repression, murder and corruption, and they're not entirely wrong.
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And the US helped liberate them from those people...Now, there's gratitude for ya.
 
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j-mac said:
Well, you ignored my earlier questions to you, so I doubt that you will honestly respond to this one but it should be pointed out anyway....Tell me Sharon, of those Americans mad about the things you outlined above, how many attacked those they felt responsible for them? How many did they kill? Were there even any protests in the streets over these things? No.

Your comparison is some sort of flawed moral relativism, that is frankly laughable.
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You have to decide if you think all the people protesting the film are killers or if the killers were AQ who arrived in pick-up trucks with RPGs.
 
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Andalublue said:
Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room. You think all this violence across the MENA area is just about people being hyper-sensitive to religious insults? You think it has nothing to do with western interference, the propping up of authoritarian military dictatorships, the geo-politics of oil, or drone attacks on civilians? Nah! Must be all about cartoons of Mohammed.
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Fine, then we should just leave these 8th century throw backs to their own devise, and pull our people, pull our money, and tell them to eat their oil.....See how that works out.....Oh, and BTW, when we do that we do it with a very clear message....'You attack Israel? We Nuke you.
 
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sharon said:
You have to decide if you think all the people protesting the film are killers or if the killers were AQ who arrived in pick-up trucks with RPGs.
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The film? You still think this is about the film? lol....Good grief....And yes sharon, people were killed, so yes they are compliant.
 
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j-mac said:
The film? You still think this is about the film? lol....Good grief....And yes sharon, people were killed, so yes they are compliant.
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There's nothing wrong with protesting an offensive movie... The AQ guys with the RPGs weren't protesting.. They intended to destroy the Consulate building.
 
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sharon said:
There's nothing wrong with protesting an offensive movie... The AQ guys with the RPGs weren't protesting.. They intended to destroy the Consulate building.
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Yes, and they didn't do so because of a stupid internet junk film....That is only the excuse. And you aid them in furthering that excuse by giving it credence.
 
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j-mac said:
Yes, and they didn't do so because of a stupid internet junk film....That is only the excuse. And you aid them in furthering that excuse by giving it credence.
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When a situation is "hot" you don't throw gas at it..
 
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sharon said:
When a situation is "hot" you don't throw gas at it..
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Is is not about the film...What exactly don't you understand about that?...Anyway...I must get ready for work now...Maybe one of my other posters will educate you further.
 
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sharon said:
Nuts.. Look at how incensed some Americans were over TeleTubbies, the Passion of the Christ, the Harry Potter Books and the Davinci Code.
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Incensed perhaps, but, not driven into murderous rage. A reasonably prudent person does not riot or commit murder because they did not like a movie nor did these people, they killed and rioted because they have no regard for human decency or the rights of others.
 
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When a nation since the end of WW2 has invaded or attacked over 37 defenseless nations in order to install bases and/or theive their resources, that has resulted in over 23 civilian deaths, then I suppose a level of resentment has mounted against that nation.

You would also imagine that quite a few enemies are formed as a direct result of this Fascist Imperialist militarism

I wonder which nation this is ladies and gentlemen?

Any guesses?

Oh well, it must be a film - yes thats it - a film!
 
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poweRob said:
The fact that you think Romney had a good response to that only shows your Obama derangement or your hero worshipping of Romney.
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Yeah, I think Romney's response was good - far better than Obama's. It definitely reflected more what I was thinking upon hearing of the attacks. The last thing on my mind was to blast some people for making a film.
 
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X Factor said:
Yeah, I think Romney's response was good - far better than Obama's. It definitely reflected more what I was thinking upon hearing of the attacks. The last thing on my mind was to blast some people for making a film.
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Are you kidding me? Romney was grandstanding..

The film was slap in the face to muslims everywhere and the Christian Egyptian betrayed the US interests. Worse.. the bloody coward blamed the Israelis and claimed 100 Jews financed the film with 5 million dollars.
 
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sharon said:
Are you kidding me? Romney was grandstanding..

The film was slap in the face to muslims everywhere and the Christian Egyptian betrayed the US interests. Worse.. the bloody coward blamed the Israelis and claimed 100 Jews financed the film with 5 million dollars.
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I know you consider it a slap to your face, but get over it.

The stupid film would not have seen the light of day and would have remained in obscurity if it hadn't been picked up as a useful tool for your people to use to justify yet another rampage.
 
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Gardener said:
I know you consider it a slap to your face, but get over it.

The stupid film would not have seen the light of day and would have remained in obscurity if it hadn't been picked up as a useful tool for your people to use to justify yet another rampage.
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Americans have no problem with mocking Jesus or the Bible or the church.. They don't mind spoofs of even vulgar insults. Muslims do.. How is that for a dose of reality?
 
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sharon said:
Americans have no problem with mocking Jesus or the Bible or the church.. They don't mind spoofs of even vulgar insults. Muslims do.. How is that for a dose of reality?
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I know you people are running around just looking for something to outrage you.

Get over it.
 
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sharon said:
Are you kidding me? Romney was grandstanding..
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Well, like I say, the American people can decide for themselves which response they most agreed with. I'm just saying that, in my case (and my case only), I agreed with Romney.

The film was slap in the face to muslims everywhere and the Christian Egyptian betrayed the US interests. Worse.. the bloody coward blamed the Israelis and claimed 100 Jews financed the film with 5 million dollars.
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Oh noessss!!!! The film was offensive to Muslims. Really, so what? There are any number of films, writings, so called art, etc. that is critical or that mocks Christianity. It doesn't justify being destructive and murderous assholes. I see people in other countries burning the American flag and the Israeli flag. Would I be justified to get 100 of my friends together and go storm an embassy to take my ridiculously overblown outrage out on some people who had zero to with anything?
 
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sharon said:
Americans have no problem with mocking Jesus or the Bible or the church.. They don't mind spoofs of even vulgar insults. Muslims do.. How is that for a dose of reality?
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You mistake failing to kill people and destroy property with having "no problem" with it. I may see something that I have a BIG problem with, I just know it's no justification for hurting someone else.
 
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Gardener said:
I know you people are running around just looking for something to outrage you.

Get over it.
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I am not outraged at all. How can I be outraged over blind stupidity? I am sorry .. Either you support the US or you don't.

I choose to support my country...
 
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