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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So the nation with the lowest murder rate on civilians is the good guy?

If we group communism and collectivism, combine all Muslim violence can we group Christianity as a lump? Seems quite a few have been killed in Gawd's name as any other...

Is awfully poor comparisons- all of communism and Muslim violence vs just the USofA. Not very reasoned.

I would imagine there are quite a few people hauled to secret CIA interrogation centers in the former Warsaw Pact who think what they got repeatedly would rival the tortures named in here.

That would be our government and there is little keeping the person getting the free trip to Eastern Europe from being a US Citizen.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Oh, he is a USA hater? Good to know.


On the contrary - I hate fascism in all its forms - including US style Corporatism and its protective Military Imperialist fascist arms

How is your US constitution and bill of rights going at the moment?

I heard from a reputable source that these great US institutions have been suspended by various draconian fascist acts such as the Patriot Acts, the NDAA etc

good luck with your acceptance of the dismantling of these great American icons of freedom and democracy.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

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Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

On the contrary - I hate fascism in all its forms - including US style Corporatism and its protective Military Imperialist fascist arms

How is your US constitution and bill of rights going at the moment?

I heard from a reputable source that these great US institutions have been suspended by various draconian fascist acts such as the Patriot Acts, the NDAA etc

good luck with your acceptance of the dismantling of these great American icons of freedom and democracy.

Capitalism is not in any way, shape or form... fascism.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Kid I was enlightened decades ago. YOu do not have monopoly on truth even if the aging hippy teacher told you you did

if there anything that is true then its that nobody has a monopoly on the truth

its just opinion - and if you can support your opinions with evidence and reasoning then your opinion carries more weight.

you can also spew out accepted propaganda and spin about what your nation does in your name all over the world

I can understand that - it takes great moral courage to see the horrible truth about what your nation represents in the world.

Many Americans see it. They are the real patriots who care about not only what their state does and represents in the world, but also what sort of world they wish to live in.

As an Australian, I direct the same criticism at my own nation's actions - whether it be its disgraceful treatment and genocide of Australias indigenous peoples or what it does on the world stage (normally following around the US military as an obedient puppet)
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That's not a fact. That's an opinion. and the way he wanted to proceed with foreign policy was not the way his opponents said he wanted to proceed with foreign policy.


How so? If they are following a policy as like you said was wrong from the get go. Then step in with the same premise. The only thing Obama disagreed with was the war in Iraq.

Moreover at what cost is he ending the Afghanistan war? He released prisoners of the Taliban, including from Guantanamo. He has given the Taliban a place to conduct buisness in Qatar. Libya is a mess. The Policy they followed for Egypt has shown itself for what it is. Riots at 4 Embassies. This Second attack on the Libyan Consulate. Relations with Pakistan is one of mistrust and relations with Russia has worsened.

If it is just an opinion.....this still does not change those facts.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So the nation with the lowest murder rate on civilians is the good guy?

No, they are all murderers!

Some choose to selectively apply their morals and ethics purely based upon self interest, hatred or racist dogmas.

And we all know who these people are and why they do this!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

if there anything that is true then its that nobody has a monopoly on the truth

its just opinion - and if you can support your opinions with evidence and reasoning then your opinion carries more weight.

you can also spew out accepted propaganda and spin about what your nation does in your name all over the world

I can understand that - it takes great moral courage to see the horrible truth about what your nation represents in the world.

Many Americans see it. They are the real patriots who care about not only what their state does and represents in the world, but also what sort of world they wish to live in.

As an Australian, I direct the same criticism at my own nation's actions - whether it be its disgraceful treatment and genocide of Australias indigenous peoples or what it does on the world stage (normally following around the US military as an obedient puppet)

I guess someone like MYA needed a counterbalance to create harmony in the universe.

SPUD I BLAME YOU

and the fact is that more people have DIED trying to COME TO OUR NATION to live than those you claimed we killed

fact remains, the USA is the greatest country in the world and guess what, we Americans aren't posting on some Australian chat board but you are on one in our nation.

I give you one thing-your best lady tennis player is a hell of a lot prettier than our best
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

How so? If they are following a policy as like you said was wrong from the get go. Then step in with the same premise. The only thing Obama disagreed with was the war in Iraq.

Moreover at what cost is he ending the Afghanistan war? He released prisoners of the Taliban, including from Guantanamo. He has given the Taliban a place to conduct buisness in Qatar. Libya is a mess. The Policy they followed for Egypt has shown itself for what it is. Riots at 4 Embassies. This Second attack on the Libyan Consulate. Relations with Pakistan is one of mistrust and relations with Russia has worsened.

If it is just an opinion.....this still does not change those facts.

I really hate this. The other two Americans were Navy Seals.

Two killed in Libyan consulate attack identified as ex-Navy SEALs - World News
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

What the **** is wrong with these people? :roll:

They are among the most ignorant, racist, bigoted and illiterate people on earth being used.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I keep waiting to hear a death count of the attackers. This will tell us if the Marines were disarmed (didn't have bullets). There is NO chance that Seals or the Marines would have just allowed the Ambassador and others to be assaulted and murdered.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

and the fact is that more people have DIED trying to COME TO OUR NATION to live than those you claimed we killed

fact remains, the USA is the greatest country in the world and guess what,

Generally its US citizens who take ownership of that cosmic claim.

Are you rationalising the slaughter of innocent civilians in nations that didnt attack the USA, on the basis of the number of maritine deaths of asylum seekers attempting to enter the USA?

At least those people made the conscious CHOICE to board a leaky boat and take the risk on the high seas to travel to the USA.

Again you need to explain what 1.4 million Iraqis and 350,000 Afagan civilians did you or the USA?

What did 4.2 million Vietnamese civilians do the USA?

Why does the USA require 1000+ military installations and bases in over 140 countries all over the world?

Why does the USA spend more on its military than all other nations combined?

Who is threatening US soveriegnty and its borders?

Do you even understand why these fascist US imperial tentacles are there in the first place?

They are not there for you!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

sounds like a good argument to let the SEALS lead the payback effort

Yes I suppose after 9/11 which only resulted in about 3000 deaths, the USA attacked Afganastan and Iraq and corporatised their oil and resources into US interests and caused 1.4 milion Iraqi and 350,000 Afagan civilian deaths.

Perhaps seeing as a US embassy was bombed in Yemen that resulted in 4 deaths, the US military can attack North Korea, Iran or even invade Indonesia?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I keep waiting to hear a death count of the attackers. This will tell us if the Marines were disarmed (didn't have bullets). There is NO chance that Seals or the Marines would have just allowed the Ambassador and others to be assaulted and murdered.

Consulates rarely if ever have a Marine guard.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I keep waiting to hear a death count of the attackers. This will tell us if the Marines were disarmed (didn't have bullets). There is NO chance that Seals or the Marines would have just allowed the Ambassador and others to be assaulted and murdered.

A stunning report released Wednesday night at the national security newsletter NightWatch says that U.S. Marines guarding the embassy in Cairo were not allowed to carry live ammunition, thereby limiting their ability to protect the facility when it came under attack...


:doh We learn nothing :(
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass


It does not make sense that in a hot spot such as this, especially on the anniversary security was not allowed to be properly armed. Moreover, these rioters did not just show up and scale the wall in seconds, it took a great deal of time. Long enough to get the required ammunition if this is true. However, the Pentagon denies that this is true anf that soldiers did have ammunition.

A Marine spokesperson at the Pentagon denied the Free Beacon’s report in a statement to Fox News.

Pentagon Lt Col Chris Hughes told the outlet: “The Ambassador and RSO have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB Cairo.”
REPORTS: Marines Not Permitted Live Ammo **UPDATE** - US Embassy Attack - Fox Nation

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It does not make sense that in a hot spot such as this, especially on the anniversary security was not allowed to be properly armed. Moreover, these rioters did not just show up and scale the wall in seconds, it took a great deal of time. Long enough to get the required ammunition if this is true. However, the Pentagon denies that this is true anf that soldiers did have ammunition.


REPORTS: Marines Not Permitted Live Ammo **UPDATE** - US Embassy Attack - Fox Nation

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

doesnt make any sense to have unarmed US forces

But what is illegal is to have a foreign military force to protect an embassy

What is allowed is to use paid private security officers to protect staff.

SUch as the criminal Balckwater security thugs that are slaughtering civilians in places such as Iraq and then asking questions later
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

doesnt make any sense to have unarmed US forces

But what is illegal is to have a foreign military force to protect an embassy

What is allowed is to use paid private security officers to protect staff.

SUch as the criminal Balckwater security thugs that are slaughtering civilians in places such as Iraq and then asking questions later

When you use sources and express yourself in a coherent manner making cohesive statements we shall talk. Until then I am eating animals crackers together with Chia seeds and yogurt just reading this wonderful thread.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It does not make sense that in a hot spot such as this, especially on the anniversary security was not allowed to be properly armed. Moreover, these rioters did not just show up and scale the wall in seconds, it took a great deal of time. Long enough to get the required ammunition if this is true. However, the Pentagon denies that this is true anf that soldiers did have ammunition.


REPORTS: Marines Not Permitted Live Ammo **UPDATE** - US Embassy Attack - Fox Nation

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

Trained Marines are being treated like Barney Fife?

US Foreign Policy has gone completely haywire.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

............

US Foreign Policy has gone completely haywire.


Under Obama the Great Apologizer, there is no Foreign Policy.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass


Slightly off topic, but are you aware rules of engagement on the orders of US commanders in Afghan are now so constraining that troops cannot open fire on Taliban fighters ;with Weapons in their hands. The Taliban has to be engaging Troops first.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

When you use sources and express yourself in a coherent manner making cohesive statements we shall talk. Until then I am eating animals crackers together with Chia seeds and yogurt just reading this wonderful thread.

sounds like youre on a very nutritious and healthy diet

I should be able to lift my intellectual capacity so that I can attain the sublime cerebral standards you have set for me as a person by the end of April 2014.

Until then you may have to put up with the truth - I realise there is pain involved when self appraising the USA in an open and honest way, but it must be done I'm afraid

:peace
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Slightly off topic, but are you aware rules of engagement on the orders of US commanders in Afghan are now so constraining that troops cannot open fire on Taliban fighters ;with Weapons in their hands. The Taliban has to be engaging Troops first.

I didnt realise that the Taliban were responsible for 9/11?
 
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