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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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Dittohead not! said:
No expectations of violence? This wasn't the first attempt at the WTC.

You do have a point about the embassy, however. There should have been enough armed guards to have prevented a bunch of ragtag terrorists from launching an attack.
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Do you think 300 is rag tag? Thats Hard Corp Fighters according to the Libyans.....which is why they cannot engage them in and around Benghazi.

As reported the Berber's militias control their own areas.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Both were attacks by terrorist groups not attached to any particular country. The difference is one of scale, not of kind.
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So, in your view, Bush of 9 months in office should have been just as up to speed, and Obama in for an entire term?....I mean I know that repubs are superior, I just had no idea that they were that advanced in your eyes....
 
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MMC said:
Do you think 300 is rag tag? Thats Hard Corp Fighters according to the Libyans.....which is why they cannot engage them in and around Benghazi.

As reported the Berber's militias control their own areas.
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It's unlikely they were well trained and well armed, so yes, rag tag.

I didn't realize there were that many of them.
 
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MMC said:
Do you think 300 is rag tag? Thats Hard Corp Fighters according to the Libyans.....which is why they cannot engage them in and around Benghazi.

As reported the Berber's militias control their own areas.
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According to a report I heard on NPR there were no US military present. It was agreed that Libya was to provide security....That was such poor planning.
 
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Das Sozialist said:
Yes, she did, but what are you trying to say?
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I think I already said it when I stated that the Obama Administration was at fault for letting security slack. Especially in and around 911. Do you think that just walking around and telling people everything we did over there in the ME was the Right Path.....now?

I doubt we will hear anymore about Team Obama touting Foreign Policy as one of their highlights anymore.....huh?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Depends on who "you" refers to.

If one of our urban gangs were to attack a foreign consulate, would that comprise an act of war by the USA?
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oh yeah. If some Congo Gangsters hit Yemen, you bet America would scramble Stealth bombers in seconds. warships parked on the Coast by morning. you're right.

I forgot what type of people are running this country.
 
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j-mac said:
So, in your view, Bush of 9 months in office should have been just as up to speed, and Obama in for an entire term?....I mean I know that repubs are superior, I just had no idea that they were that advanced in your eyes....
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Actually, in my view, the attacks were not the fault of the sitting president when they were carried out, not of Bush nor of Obama. This sort of thing happens, we have crazies around the world that hate us, and it is not difficult to come up with a way to attack the USA. I'm surprised that there haven't been more attacks during the past few years as a matter of fact.
 
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j-mac said:
So, in your view, Bush of 9 months in office should have been just as up to speed, and Obama in for an entire term?....I mean I know that repubs are superior, I just had no idea that they were that advanced in your eyes....
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He's pointing out the holes in your argument. If this is Obama's fault, then that means that terrorist attacks are the fault of the sitting President. Bush was the President on 9/11, therefore...

That's logic. I know that's something you don't like when it doesn't fit your narrow view of truth which is "Republicans good, Democrats bad."
 
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Dittohead not! said:
It's unlikely they were well trained and well armed, so yes, rag tag.

I didn't realize there were that many of them.
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According to the Libyan Security forces that were there and fired shots into the Air at first, but then Saw that they were Armed with RPG's and Full Assualt Rifles, said they were Hard Corp Fighters, and retreated. One must remember these are Not Sunni Arabs fighting, by themselves in Libya.
 
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MMC said:
I think I already said it when I stated that the Obama Administration was at fault for letting security slack. Especially in and around 911. Do you think that just walking around and telling people everything we did over there in the ME was the Right Path.....now?

I doubt we will hear anymore about Team Obama touting Foreign Policy as one of their highlights anymore.....huh?
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His foreign policy has been remarkable mostly in it's similarity to Bush's. Except for the whole "Invade people that had nothing to do with the attack on us because the dude hated my Dad" thing.
 
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MMC said:
I think I already said it when I stated that the Obama Administration was at fault for letting security slack. Especially in and around 911. Do you think that just walking around and telling people everything we did over there in the ME was the Right Path.....now?

I doubt we will hear anymore about Team Obama touting Foreign Policy as one of their highlights anymore.....huh?
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The Bush administration had years to reinforce the doors and glass, but you blame the current President's administration? And how did they let security slack? Think realistically, do you expect the President to deploy soldiers to all of our embassies in the Middle East/Africa (more than 30 of them) for one day?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Actually, in my view, the attacks were not the fault of the sitting president when they were carried out, not of Bush nor of Obama. This sort of thing happens, we have crazies around the world that hate us, and it is not difficult to come up with a way to attack the USA. I'm surprised that there haven't been more attacks during the past few years as a matter of fact.
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Well we now know they Attacked this Libyan Consulate in June of this year.....so again i am wondering why from June until now. The doors and glass were not taken care of? Could somone have been actually penny-pinching......Nah. This is just straight up incompetance!
 
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Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Dittohead not! said:
Actually, in my view, the attacks were not the fault of the sitting president when they were carried out, not of Bush nor of Obama. This sort of thing happens, we have crazies around the world that hate us, and it is not difficult to come up with a way to attack the USA. I'm surprised that there haven't been more attacks during the past few years as a matter of fact.
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Yeah, no big deal really, eh? Look Ditto, this is a failure of foreign policy, period.
 
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rocket88 said:
His foreign policy has been remarkable mostly in it's similarity to Bush's. Except for the whole "Invade people that had nothing to do with the attack on us because the dude hated my Dad" thing.
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Really.....well considering Obama has moved our fleets all around and with more activity. Who's cost is higher? Did you forget Obama dropping bombs in Yemen, Somalia, Palistan, Course Afghanistan. Course there was the Libyan Civil War thing.


Lets See Bush.....Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama.....Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Somolia, plus sent in some Advisors to hunt down Kony. In and around Sudan.
What about him backing the play to remove Gbagbo in the Ivory Coast......while Sneding in Advisors to go hunt down Kony?

Oh and lets not forget that Soft Aid to the Syrian Rebels.....huh?
 
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Das Sozialist said:
The Bush administration had years to reinforce the doors and glass, but you blame the current President's administration? And how did they let security slack? Think realistically, do you expect the President to deploy soldiers to all of our embassies in the Middle East/Africa (more than 30 of them) for one day?
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GAWD! I am so sick of hearing....'But Bush'....'But Bush!'.... Bush has been out of office for an entire term now....Deal with it!
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Yes, had the government been somehow complicit, that would have been an act of war. As it is, it is a criminal act and is being treated as such.
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The government wasn't complicit? They are that certain already?
 
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Grant said:
The government wasn't complicit? They are that certain already?
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The sad thing is, you so wish that to be true.

Paul
 
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MMC said:
Really.....well considering Obama has moved our fleets all around and with more activity. Who's cost is higher? Did you forget Obama dropping bombs in Yemen, Somalia, Palistan, Course Afghanistan. Course there was the Libyan Civil War thing.


Lets See Bush.....Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama.....Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Somolia, plus sent in some Advisors to hunt down Kony. In and around Sudan.
What about him backing the play to remove Gbagbo in the Ivory Coast......while Sneding in Advisors to go hunt down Kony?

Oh and lets not forget that Soft Aid to the Syrian Rebels.....huh?
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And you don't think many of those conflicts are/were not interconnected in some way?

Paul
 
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Just how does Clinton remarks come face to face with reality. She says this is just a small group. I don't call 5 countries rioting at 4 of our Embassies a small group. While killing 4 and taking out our safehouse and a consulate in Libya.

I see Rice can talk about how she knew Stevens while still condemming Assad and blaming him for killing innocents. Do you think she will ever say anything about the FSA killing Christians and using Children to launch Offensives. Why isn't she talking with the Libyans about when they retreated why didnt they get our people out with them?
 
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gunner said:
More likely they're taking a measured response, and weighing the options (remember we know what 'knee Jerk reactions get us into). What do YOU suggest start Bombing the whole region?

Paul
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They have already taken a measure response.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”

It's all so puzzling to leftists.
 
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gunner said:
And you don't think many of those conflicts are/were not interconnected in some way?

Paul
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Sure I do.....but then again. Under who's watch? Goose, Gander, thingy remember? So again who's cost is higher?
 
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Grant said:
They have already taken a measure response.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”

It's all so puzzling to leftists.
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And you think that's all the response will be? Did you miss the bit where she said the US will work with the Libyans to bring the terrorists to justice?

Paul
 
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MMC said:
Sure I do.....but then again. Under who's watch? Goose, Gander, thingy remember? So again who's cost is higher?
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I am sure in some way we will hear how Obama is not responsible for anything concerning the lack of security, or lack of action here, however, Bush on the other hand is still to blame.....*facepalm
 
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gunner said:
The sad thing is, you so wish that to be true.

Paul
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Really? And you have evidence of this?

Have you been connecting the dots again?
 
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MMC said:
Sure I do.....but then again. Under who's watch? Goose, Gander, thingy remember? So again who's cost is higher?
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Election promises aside. Obama has found a quick withdrawal was not possible. The two invasions sucked in many border regions, and Obama is dealing with the consequences. Without being in possession of the facts I'd hazard a guess its costing less now Iraq has declined. That said, the additional cost of fighting with the policy adopted from Iraq (the surge) and the additions previously mentioned, please tell?

Paul
 
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