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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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Klown said:
Of course the attack on the embassy is wrong and wont acheive anything except perpetuate more violence

But for someone in the USA to moralise and condemn this event, after ignoring or even supporting the imperialist US militarism all around the world that has resulted millions of deaths, is nothing short of delusional and hypocritical.

And to use your terminology, is US foreign policy and militarism "radical fundamentalism"?

Or perhaps you cant see the crimes that are carried out in your name?

I suppose I would be confused as well in that scenario!
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I think most people don't realize why the US consulate was a target for certain Muslims in Libya. I don't think people are conscious of the imperialistic (and sometimes aggressive, if not abusive and invasive) hand US has around the world. Documentaries, such as this recent one, is just the last straw, in what the Muslim world experiences as U.S. soft power. I don't condone this violence. I don't agree the US consulate/government should be a target for a documentary created by group of individuals.
 
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Das Sozialist said:
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you about American Imperialism, but I am condemning their actions. The attack was barbaric.
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It was a criminal act that resulted in deaths

The Iraqi invasion has resulted in 1.42 million civilain deaths and the theft of their energy resources.

Lets keep some perspective here ladies and gentlemen

And this is not to link the two crimes or to justify one or the other, merely to shine some perspective on the outrage of Americans at the slaughter of 4 inncoent people in a foreign embassy. The killing of innocent people is an everyday event in many nations, and the US military is responsible for those crimes. So where is the outrage?

You shouldnt be confused on this point
 
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Misterveritis said:
But clearly he does know when to speak up. I am delighted that Romney defended American ideals while the one term Marxist headed off to another fund raiser.
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I couldn't believe he droned on and on in the middle of this crisis.. I saw something so petty and meanspirited that I had to look away.. It was "glee".
 
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Klown said:
It was a criminal act that resulted in deaths

The Iraqi invasion has resulted in 1.42 million civilian deaths and the theft of their energy resources.

Lets keep some prospective here ladies and gentlemen

And this is not to link the two crimes or to justify one or the other, merely to shine some prospective on the outrage of Americans at the slaughter of 4 inncoent people in a foreign embassy. The killing of innocent people is an everyday event in many nations, and the US military is responsible for those crimes. So where is the outrage?

You shouldnt be confused on this point
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I agree that 1.42 million civilian deaths is horrible, it saddens me, but those were casualties of war, they were not intentional to my knowledge. The Ambassador and the three other civilians were attacked intentionally.
 
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Clandestine said:
I think most people don't realize why the US consulate was a target for certain Muslims in Libya. I don't think people are conscious of the imperialistic (and sometimes aggressive, if not abusive and invasive) hand US has around the world. Documentaries, such as this recent one, is just the last straw, in what the Muslim world experiences as U.S. soft power. I don't condone this violence. I don't agree the US consulate/government should be a target for a documentary created by group of individuals.
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You make some pertinent points

This lack of awareness was also prevalent amongst the population of Nazi Germany during WW2

They say we cannot see our own defects as well as those on others
 
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Das Sozialist said:
I agree that the 1.42 million civilian deaths is horrible, it saddens me, but those were casualties of war, they were not intentional, as far as you and I both know. The Ambassador and the three other civilians were attacked intentionally.
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1.42 million civilian deaths on Iraq as a result of US attacks and an illegal invasion

And you call this |terrible"???

What was the justification of the war with IRaq?

Why is the USA still in Iraq?

Are you saying that 1.42 million civilian deaths is fine by you because they are casualties of a war carried out by your nation adn and its defense forces?
 
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Ambassador Chris Stevens was tortured before he was murdered by these savages who wage jihad for Allahs cause. Afterall they are only doing what is required of them. Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Chris Stevens right before they murdered him in Allahs name.
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Hows that Arab Spring working out for you now Mr President?
 
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My heart goes out to the families of victims.

This is a moment for Americans to stand together.
 
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Klown said:
1.42 million civilian deaths on Iraq as a result of US attacks and an illegal invasion

And you call this |terrible"???

What was the justification of the war with IRaq?

Why is the USA still in Iraq?

Are you saying that 1.42 million civilian deaths is fine by you because they are casualties of a war carried out by your nation adn and its defense forces?
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Where's your link to those statistics. Interesting to note also that most of those civilian deaths were caused by other Iraqis, according to Wiki Leaks. Were you aware of that?
 
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SgtRock said:
Ambassador Chris Stevens was tortured before he was murdered by these savages who wage jihad for Allahs cause. Afterall they are only doing what is required of them. Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Chris Stevens right before they murdered him in Allahs name.
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Hows that Arab Spring working out for you now Mr President?
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I'm going yo say your another stupid Muslim hater who's only knowledge comes from FOX News.
 
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gunner said:
I fully appreciate how dear Americans view free speech. It is something that has been made crystal clear to me on this board. That said, I'm more for the 'greater good'. No different to my total opposition to the fanatics that (although an extreme minority) attempted to protest Military home coming parades, in the UK. I fully agree it serves no one, and is simply promulgating hatred and is not conducive with the principles of a Western society. I have NO issue with banning such virile hate messages.

Paul
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This is evidence of the chickification of Europe.
 
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SgtRock said:
Ambassador Chris Stevens was tortured before he was murdered by these savages who wage jihad for Allahs cause. Afterall they are only doing what is required of them. Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Chris Stevens right before they murdered him in Allahs name.
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Hows that Arab Spring working out for you now Mr President?
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Damn- I didn't know that. This compounds my disgust.
 
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lizzie said:
Damn- I didn't know that. This compounds my disgust.
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I don't think so.. He died of smoke inhalation.. They found him and took him to Benghazi medical center where they worked on him for a hour.... Nobody knew who he was... He was bleeding internally.
 
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ChrisL said:
Where's your link to those statistics. Interesting to note also that most of those civilian deaths were caused by other Iraqis, according to Wiki Leaks. Were you aware of that?
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I see. You are aware that the nation that invades and triggers a war is responsible for all the deaths and destruction that result?

My source is the study carried out by the independent analysts who estimated the additional death rate caused by the US invasion and military actions

These researchers were the same people who conducted an analysis in the number of deaths Milosovic was responsible for. Evidence that was used by the USA and the west in the International criminal court to convict Milosevic of about 90,000 civilian deaths. (and yes Milosovic was held responsible for all deaths)

Are you disputing the credibility of this estimate and the removing US responsibility for the destruction of the Iraqi state and the killing of its civilians?
 
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Theres also reports his motorcade was hit by rocketfire. Also we still have others unaccounted for and presumed on the run.
 
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sharon said:
I don't think so.. He died of smoke inhalation.. They found him and took him to Benghazi medical center where they worked on him for a hour.... Nobody knew who he was... He was bleeding internally.
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That's what I heard too. I was actually thinking that in the picture, that could be people just trying to drag him out and help him, but who really knows?
 
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The war against the west by Islamic extremist goes on and will continue to go on until all disbelievers convert, are subjugated, or are killed. When will people wake up. If it takes a thousnad years Islam will rule the world through a caliphate. What are we going to do to stop them. We could start by defineing our enemy. Calling the war a war on terror is like calling the WWII the war on blitzkrieg. A religious war has been declared by our enemy on us. Who are they, they are islamists waging jihad for Allahs cause. They are doing what is expected of them. Understand this, the Arab Spring is not a good thing as the Obama administration believed it was. I and many others saw this comming. And soon Iran will have the bomb. Mark my words, they will use it on Israel.
 
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Klown said:
I see. You are aware that the nation that invades and triggers a war is responsible for all the deaths and destruction that result?

My source is the study carried out by the independent analysts who estimated the additional death rate caused by the US invasion and military actions

These researchers were the same people who conducted an analysis in the number of deaths Milosovic was responsible for. Evidence that was used by the USA and the west in the International criminal court to convict Milosevic of about 90,000 civilian deaths. (and yes Milosovic was held responsible for all deaths)

Are you disputing the credibility of this estimate and the removing US responsibility for the destruction of the Iraqi state and the killing of its civilians?
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Show your source.
 
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0bserver92 said:
I'm going yo say your another stupid Muslim hater who's only knowledge comes from FOX News.
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excuse me, personal attacks are against forum rules. I have reported your post to the mods. have a nice evening. And another thing, I rarely if ever watch cable news.
 
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Klown said:
Are you disputing the credibility of this estimate and the removing US responsibility for the destruction of the Iraqi state and the killing of its civilians?
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I love how "overthrowing a war-mongering genocidal dictator" = "destruction of the Iraqi state". Like it's a bad thing! haha

US inflicted casualties are nothing compared to Saddam's wars, TWO instances of genocide (200k and 50k) and the selling of food-for-oil (400k).
 
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Klown said:
1.42 million civilian deaths on Iraq as a result of US attacks and an illegal invasion

And you call this |terrible"???

What was the justification of the war with IRaq?

Why is the USA still in Iraq?

Are you saying that 1.42 million civilian deaths is fine by you because they are casualties of a war carried out by your nation adn and its defense forces?
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I don't have these answers for you, I'm sorry. I never said that the 1.42 million deaths were fine, I was putting it in perspective for you, innocent civilians dying at any time is horrible. I condemn both events, am I wrong for doing that?

Also, I researched the body count, it's about 1/10 of what you claim it to be, according to the Iraq Body Count website.

 
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SgtRock said:
The war against the west by Islamic extremist goes on and will continue to go on until all disbelievers convert, are subjugated, or are killed. When will people wake up. If it takes a thousnad years Islam will rule the world through a caliphate. What are we going to do to stop them. We could start by defineing our enemy. Calling the war a war on terror is like calling the WWII the war on blitzkrieg. A religious war has been declared by our enemy on us. Who are they, they are islamists waging jihad for Allahs cause. They are doing what is expected of them. Understand this, the Arab Spring is not a good thing as the Obama administration believed it was. I and many others saw this comming. And soon Iran will have the bomb. Mark my words, they will use it on Israel.
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Exactly. The only solution is to nuke the entire middle east.
 
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Das Sozialist said:
Also, I researched the body count, it's about 1/10 of what you claim it to be, according to the Iraq Body Count website.

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I bet he is using that ~6+ year old study that was funded by Soros, conducted by a Saddam henchman and thoroughly discredited shortly after publishing. The second great disgrace (recently) for that publisher (the first being an article about vaccines).
 
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johnny_rebson said:
Exactly. The only solution is to nuke the entire middle east.
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Well hopefully that is NEVER going to happen. How is that any better than the crap they do?
 
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Navy Pride said:
This is a sad and disturbing day. On the anniversary of 9/11, America is once again under assault by the Muslim jihad. U.S. embassies were attacked and our citizens killed by radical Islamic extremists while our own Embassy in Egypt apologized for any offense a private movie may have caused to Muslims.

And where was our President?

He was silent. All yesterday. Nothing.
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The one term Marxist flexible with our enemies president Barrack Hussein Obama was way too busy fund raising to actually, well, care. But his administration lackeys did apologize to the Muslims for the film's insensitivity to the religion of peace. Or so I have been told.
 
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