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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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ecofarm said:
Others' suffering affects me personally, even if they are on the other side of the world. And I take action myself, I walk the talk.

And don't worry, I'm not coming to search your computer.
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Well what the hell are you still doing here? Shouldn't you be off in Africa fighting for the People?
 
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sharon said:
There were no birth records kept until after 1900 AD.

But, there are historic milestones plus her previous engagement.. She was older.
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Marriage with Aisha
 
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ecofarm said:
They are our ally.
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You're not their ally, you're their vassal, dancing to their tune. I thought the shenanigans at the DNC, trying to whip up an 'Aye' for the resolution on Jerusalem was pretty hilarious, and craven to the point of embarrassment. It's such an odd state of affairs in that Israel appears to buy the complicity of the US to whatever they do by simply accepting billions of dollars of aid. Surely you buy something by giving money, not taking it.
 
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MMC said:


What Romney had to say......

Obama and the statement released by them Apologized For Freedom of Speech.
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I smell a boost for Romney in the polls.
 
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Ikari said:
What are the Democrats going to do that the Republicans won't? How different is Obama from Bush? Both sides, Democrats alike, will do nothing more than whittle down our liberties as they use every fear mongering POS story they can contrive to whip us into frenzy so that we stop thinking about the situation and the problems and excuse their gross usurpation of power.
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In essence, everything you said above is true. I cannot support the Democrats, nor the Republicans due to their pro-business stance, and national/international promotion of capitalism. But the domestic Social views of Republicans are still far more dangerous than those of their counterparts, so that alone is a leg up for the Democrats.
 
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Andalublue said:
You're not their ally, you're their vassal, dancing to their tune.
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I see now, the Jews are manipulating the world. How did I not notice that before?
 
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Connery said:
Thankfully you are not in charge of anything but your keyboard.

Rather than go in there fueled by emotion and acting like the maniacs we are condemning, this needs to be investigated and disposed of the most effective and permanent way. Further, we should learn some lessons about preparedness as well.
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Actually I am in charge of a great deal more than my keyboard and did never said that anyone should enter anywhere in the Middle East "fueled by emotion and acting like maniacs".

What's the good of responding to a quote if you don't actually use it or base your response on it?

Of course learning something about preparedness would be a good thing but if 'the leader of the free world' skips intelligence meetings or meetings with important international leaders for a spot on David Letterman then a lack of preparedness, and its consequences, should come as no surprise.

There will be more of this until a new attitude and serious leadership emerges.
 
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sharon said:
There were no birth records kept until after 1900 AD.

But, there are historic milestones plus her previous engagement.. She was older.
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Who gives a **** and why do you keep excusing it? I could call Achmeds mother a sperm burping whore and it wouldnt excuse his brother to go kill some random stranger in his mothers honor. What the hell is wrong with you that you keep trying to make the actions of animals somehow justified?
 
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Ikari said:
I don't have anything against Israel, they're not my problem. They have to watch after themselves, it is not my duty to do it for them, it is not my responsibility to pay for it. Israel is left to the Israelis, not Americans.
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I get what you are saying.

There are no friends between nations. There are only allies. But Allies means team and team is always more powerful than individual. This very much means that nations like France and Britian and Japan, etc. are our problem. Their miseries suck us in. You do remember the entire 20th century where America was sucked into global foriegn wars because other nations misbehaved unchecked? Allies act as our proxies to make regions behave. It also encourages them to behave. Having us as an ally means loyalty and the ability to raise the American bat signal. It offers stability and protection on every level. This is why much of the world (those that matter) wanted to take part in the 9/11 retaliation. An attack on us was an attack on them. Of course, Bush and Co. went and screwed that goodwill up rather quickly, but the fact remains.

Israel, specifically, is our key ally in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia is an ally ONLY because of oil exportation. The rest is just about making the only instable region left on earth behave (and don't think people like Saddam Hussein made it stable as local activities against dictators throughout since have proven). But Israel represents something else. It represents democracy in a region where such a thing is just now taking root in the Arab world. It is also the number one country in our team of allies that is constantly dealing with radical terrorists and international criticism because of who they ethnically are. We cannot ever base our loyalty on the pressure from enemies of democracy and freedom.

History has proven that our security relies on the stability of foriegn regions. Never have we gone to a country or dealt with a country because it was just about that country (Spanish-American War an obvious exception). Always, it was the region. Israel represents the Western path in a region that is still choosing between our path and the path backwards.

Of course it is easy to state that no Amerian blod is worth any foriegn blood. I agree. However, American blood spills even when we try to isolate. Eventually, they suck us out to when the blood is guaranteed to be thicker and the treasure is guaranteed to be heavier. Our goal is to get the world to a place where it can take care of itself. This means allies, even those we dislike.
 
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Ikari said:
I don't have anything against Israel, they're not my problem. They have to watch after themselves, it is not my duty to do it for them, it is not my responsibility to pay for it. Israel is left to the Israelis, not Americans.
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It would seem that the Islamic strategy of divide and conquer is having some success.
 
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Mason66 said:
You said it yourself, it was Israelies that made the movie so why did they attack an American embassy?
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I think the Islamist reaction to this would be, "what's the difference?"
 
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VanceMack said:
Who gives a **** and why do you keep excusing it? I could call Achmeds mother a sperm burping whore and it wouldnt excuse his brother to go kill some random stranger in his mothers honor. What the hell is wrong with you that you keep trying to make the actions of animals somehow justified?
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Why would anyone start posting about Aisha on this thread?
 
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ecofarm said:
I see now, the Jews are manipulating the world. How did I not notice that before?
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You turning in an anti-semite? Can't you tell the difference between Jewish and Israeli?
 
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Ikari said:
It's not our responsibility to make them "behave". Nor is it our duty to police the world, or engage in preemptive, interventionist, occupational wars of foreign lands. The world doesn't pay taxes to us, we have no responsibility towards them.
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Just because you don't go after them doesn't mean that they won't go after you. Isolationism has to work in multiple ways in order to function properly.
 
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Andalublue said:
You turning in an anti-semite? Can't you tell the difference between Jewish and Israeli?
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My bad. It seems I drank a little too much of your punch. Obviously, Israel is manipulating the world.
 
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Andalublue said:
You're not their ally, you're their vassal, dancing to their tune. I thought the shenanigans at the DNC, trying to whip up an 'Aye' for the resolution on Jerusalem was pretty hilarious, and craven to the point of embarrassment. It's such an odd state of affairs in that Israel appears to buy the complicity of the US to whatever they do by simply accepting billions of dollars of aid. Surely you buy something by giving money, not taking it.
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Is that why Netanyahu made the speech he did? Sure don't sound like a Liege Lord calling to his vassals. Sounds more like a leader that is saying. Hey, Sanctions, Diplomacy isnt working. What else ya gots? Because even your own sources are reporting the same thing as our and that of 2 other western countries.

I think ya might have got Waltzing confused with Break-Dancing.
 
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VanceMack said:
Who gives a **** and why do you keep excusing it? I could call Achmeds mother a sperm burping whore and it wouldnt excuse his brother to go kill some random stranger in his mothers honor. What the hell is wrong with you that you keep trying to make the actions of animals somehow justified?
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Maybe she is exercising a bit of common sense and intelligence? Go to a ghetto and scream "nigger!" If you wind up dead, nobody will exonerate you of responsibility for causing your own death. Provocation, masked as freedom of speech, is ignorant.
 
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ecofarm said:
I see now, the Jews are manipulating the world. How did I not notice that before?
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Too busy counting all the dollar bills the rich Jews were stuffing in your speedos as you danced?
 
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ecofarm said:
My bad. It seems I drank a little too much of your punch. Obviously, Israel is manipulating the world.
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Not the world, far from it, just US Middle-eastern policy, and it's been doing that for some time.
 
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Andalublue said:
I think the Islamist reaction to this would be, "what's the difference?"
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Considering that you believe Israel is manipulating the US and using the US as a "vassal", I think your reaction, as well, is "what's the difference".

How do you differ from radical CT Islamists in this regard?
 
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sharon said:
Why would anyone start posting about Aisha on this thread?
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Why would you offer excuse on ANY thread. Their actions were despicable. Worse that people think that ANYONE is justified in killing strangers because their pathetic little feelings were hurt or that they haz a sad.
 
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Andalublue said:
Can't you tell the difference between Jewish and Israeli?
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Yeah, cause everybody knows they call Israel the Swedish homeland and all......
 
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ecofarm said:
"The Absolute Verdict (/blogspot)" hahahaha

Nice (absolutist) blog you got there.
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There are several websites by Islamic scholars. Choose the one you prefer.
 
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