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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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sharon said:
Bacile is NOT an American citizen.

Filmmaker Sam Bacile in hiding after anti-Muslim film sparks violence in which American diplomat was killed | Fox News
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I could be wrong but I think we have dual citizenship with Israel? As an Agnostic all religions offend me to some extent. People teaching children to young to decide for themselves that some magical guy in the sky controls everything is horribly offensive to me. However, I'm not going to assault the preacher man down the street because he runs a vacation bible school and should be jailed if I do. Moreover, he has every right to run that vacation bible school even though I find it offensive and think he is teaching them very dangerous lies.
 
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MMC said:
Perhaps you should look up the suburb of Bridgeview Illinois. The whole Suburb. Thats just one, theres plenty of them around. Do you think they do anything to the gangbangers that they know where they hang out everyday? Do you think they do anything when they spray paint their mosque and write racial slurs all over it? What about their Cleric? Think he directs anyone to go and challenge the bangers? What do you think they do when they see these things happen. Other than call the Police?

Are you familiar with the MA FI A Nation? El Rukns? Ancient Family? These are alleged Muslims that are also Bangers!
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I am not familiar with Muslim gangs. Here, we have several rival Mexican gangs, Asian gangs, white power gangs, and one from El Salvador that has a reputation as the most violent gang. They fight each other all the time, shooting each other in the street.

Are you saying that the Muslim gangs don't retaliate when a rival gang desecrates a mosque or launches an attack on them?
 
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apdst said:
People do it all the time. Do we kill Muslims when Armadenijad denies that the Holocaust ever happened?
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Well, we are better people. It's as simple as that. Were we decrepit, ignorant, stupid, uneducated, etc., our people would look towards our few to murder on our behalf too. But Ahmedenejad's rediculous statements, meant to ignite a rise and violence, holds responsibility for his part of the event. Why do you think lawyers and judges always look for the provocations to get the whole story?
 
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apdst said:
One of his several wives was 7 years old! :rofl

Muhammed slaughtered thousands of people and took all their ****.

Muhammed was a murdering piece of ****.
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That's crap.. Aisha was between 17 and 19..

So what is your point.. You think you are a brave person to call out lies and insults from a keyboard?
 
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sharon said:
No he wasn't.. That's idiot stuff. I am surprised you don't know any better.
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I don't know about him being a Pedophile......But as far as a Womanizer, murderer and mass murderer, and of Muslims to, as well as a Shady buisness practices which brought about his death. Now that part is True!
 
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apdst said:
People do it all the time. Do we kill Muslims when Armadenijad denies that the Holocaust ever happened?
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What amazes me is the incredible degree of hypocrisy in some of these posters who justify murder as some sort of normal reaction to the expression of an idea, and stand so vehemently against freedom of expression when such expression disses islam, yet absolutely refuse to apply the same principles when it is Muslims doing so.

What patent idiocy does it take to fail to recognize the absolutely ENORMOUS amount of antisemitic and anti-Christian rhetoric coming from the Islamic world? It is pervasive, yet these shills persist in their blather as if it is the small amount of bigotry in one direction that is the problem and not the extreme degree of bigotry in the other.
 
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John.NoseTip said:
I could be wrong but I think we have dual citizenship with Israel? As an Agnostic all religions offend me to some extent. People teaching children to young to decide for themselves that some magical guy in the sky controls everything is horribly offensive to me. However, I'm not going to assault the preacher man down the street because he runs a vacation bible school and should be jailed if I do. Moreover, he has every right to run that vacation bible school even though I find it offensive and think he is teaching them very dangerous lies.
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I don't know .. Bacile claims to be Israeli and claims he is doing it for his country, Israel.
 
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Gardener said:
What amazes me is the incredible degree of hypocrisy in some of these posters who justify murder as some sort of normal reaction to the expression of an idea, and stand so vehemently against freedom of expression when such expression disses islam, yet absolutely refuse to apply the same principles when it is Muslims doing so.

What patent idiocy does it take to fail to recognize the absolutely ENORMOUS amount of antisemitic and anti-Christian rhetoric coming from the Islamic world? It is pervasive, yet these shills persist in their blather as if it is the small amount of bigotry in one direction that is the problem and not the extreme degree of bigotry in the other.
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Look where it's coming from. It comes from people who are unpatriotic and hate the United States, living vicariously through the extremists.
 
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sharon said:
I don't know .. Bacile claims to be Israeli and claims he is doing it for his country, Israel.
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And good for him! The Israelis are the good guys.
 
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sharon said:
He's not exposing Islam, he's lying about Islam. Even a poorly educated person has more information than that God awful slander.

Would you be outraged if some film maker made a trashy movie about the holocaust, or blood libel or any of that other libelous crud?
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As a descendant of holocaust survivors on both sides of my family, and consequently a significantly denuded family as a result yes those things tend to offend me. But I would never think to ban their right to make a trashy racist movie. Not for that matter would I kill them over it, but that really isn't the point as far as freedom of speech is concerned.
 
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sharon said:
He's not exposing Islam, he's lying about Islam. Even a poorly educated person has more information than that God awful slander.

Would you be outraged if some film maker made a trashy movie about the holocaust, or blood libel or any of that other libelous crud?
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Ever hear of the Rocky Horror Picture Show?
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
How many in this thread blame the movie ? Cause that is the liberal mantra "blame the Jews", or "we should know better than to say anything negative about Muhammad".

Read 'em and weep:
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This isn't a liberal mantra. It is a mantra of the illiberal portion of the left, instead. There is much antisemitism in the left to be sure, but it arises from those who do not follow liberal principles and are simply reacting to a degree of personal self-loathing by identifying with anything that opposes the west.
 
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John.NoseTip said:
I could be wrong but I think we have dual citizenship with Israel? As an Agnostic all religions offend me to some extent. People teaching children to young to decide for themselves that some magical guy in the sky controls everything is horribly offensive to me. However, I'm not going to assault the preacher man down the street because he runs a vacation bible school and should be jailed if I do. Moreover, he has every right to run that vacation bible school even though I find it offensive and think he is teaching them very dangerous lies.
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How exactly does it offend you? How does some guys Bible School, that you don't have to attend, give you offence? What is your personal offence? Because others are Christians, your Agnostic position is threatened?

The same argument is used by Liberals about gay marriage. Heteros are "offended" over the afront to the institution of marriage. But how are they personally offended? Does it devalue the traditional ritual? Does it mean that their regular marriages are somehow insulted?

It's all relative. People are always "offended" for no reason, but it boils down to a personal discomfort that either you feel you are missing out on something or feel the need to defend a soul belief of who you are as if "they" are on the attack.
 
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apdst said:
Look where it's coming from. It comes from people who are unpatriotic and hate the United States, living vicariously through the extremists.
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Yep. Disgruntled people blame anybody but themselves for the state of their lives, and so side with these illiberal, knuckle dragging Neanderthals in their shared hatred against the west.
 
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apdst said:
Look where it's coming from. It comes from people who are unpatriotic and hate the United States, living vicariously through the extremists.
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No question about that.

Even Romney doesn't know when to shut up.
 
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MSgt said:
It doesn't help Israel any more than the Tea Party has helped the Republican Party. Fanaticism is fanaticism and it rolls the eyes of most.
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So let's get in a slap at the Tea Party being "fanaticism". !!!

Nope.
 
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sharon said:
No question about that.

Even Romney doesn't know when to shut up.
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Are you calling Romney a terrorist?
 
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MMC said:
Ever hear of the Rocky Horror Picture Show?
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Yes.. I have heard of it... Was it about accusing Jewish people of perversion?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
I am not familiar with Muslim gangs. Here, we have several rival Mexican gangs, Asian gangs, white power gangs, and one from El Salvador that has a reputation as the most violent gang. They fight each other all the time, shooting each other in the street.

Are you saying that the Muslim gangs don't retaliate when a rival gang desecrates a mosque or launches an attack on them?
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No I didnt say that.....but the Muslims gang-bangers follow their own leader and not some cleric telling them how to interpret Islam. Moreover they do not go after any of the other bangers for saying anything about Islam or talking shiznit about Mohammed. They dont do a damn thing when a mosque is defaced, burned, or if Muslims get their azz beat for saying something stupid when out in public. Nor do they go hunt down azzholes like Jones for expressing his opinion.
 
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Gardener said:
Yep. Disgruntled people blame anybody but themselves for the state of their lives, and so side with these illiberal, knuckle dragging Neanderthals in their shared hatred against the west.
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I think it's more about fear. The apologists actually believe that appeasing these assholes will result in less bloodshed, or that the Muslims will gain more and more power throughout the world, and the apoligists believe that their past apologism will shine a favorable light upon them, when the powers that be come to take them away.
 
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Gardener said:
This isn't a liberal mantra. It is a mantra of the illiberal portion of the left, instead. There is much antisemitism in the left to be sure, but it arises from those who do not follow liberal principles and are simply reacting to a degree of personal self-loathing by identifying with anything that opposes the west.
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No. It has become the liberal mantra. It is not that far of a cry from what happened at the DNC in Charlotte over the inclusion of "God" in their platform (one time) and the acknowledgement that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel.

Anti-Christian, anti-Jew, appeasing Islam is very much a part of American liberal political mantra.
 
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MMC said:
No I didnt say that.....but the Muslims gang-bangers follow their own leader and not some cleric telling them how to interpret Islam. Moreover they do not go after any of the other bangers for saying anything about Islam or talking shiznit about Mohammed. They dont do a damn thing when a mosque is defaced, burned, or if Muslims get their azz beat for saying something stupid when out in public. Nor do they go hunt down azzholes like Jones for expressing his opinion.
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So, they aren't the same as Al Qaeda, which could easily be described as an international Islamic gang.
 
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sharon said:
No question about that.

Even Romney doesn't know when to shut up.
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Kinda like some Sunni Clerics.....huh? :roll:
 
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sharon said:
He's not exposing Islam, he's lying about Islam. Even a poorly educated person has more information than that God awful slander.

Would you be outraged if some film maker made a trashy movie about the holocaust, or blood libel or any of that other libelous crud?
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Most intelligent reasonable human beings might be upset...even pissed...but they dont kill people because someone drew a cartoon of their idols with a grenade in their turban. People that do that are reprehensible subhuman ****s and deserve to be eliminated form the human race. People that excuse, and justify their behaviors arent far behind them.
 
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MSgt said:
How exactly does it offend you? How does some guys Bible School, that you don't have to attend, give you offence? What is your personal offence? Because others are Christians, your Agnostic position is threatened?

The same argument is used by Liberals about gay marriage. Heteros are "offended" over the afront to the institution of marriage. But how are they personally offended? Does it devalue the traditional ritual? Does it mean that their regular marriages are somehow insulted?

It's all relative. People are always "offended" for no reason, but it boils down to a personal discomfort that either you feel you are missing out on something or feel the need to defend a soul belief of who you are as if "they" are on the attack.
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No. It's because teaching children to believe in a magical guy in the sky and disregard reason has a tremendous impact in the world I live. There are numerous wars and laws based on these magical people in the sky so adults teaching 7 year olds that this is good is horribly wrong to me. The difference is I understand I live in a world where everyone doesn't agree with me therefore I must accept their beliefs.
 
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