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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    [QUOTE=Klown;1060903463][QUOTE]Thats the point

    The USA supports dictators and fascist military states in the region that oppress their people

    Us and western corporates then funnel the bulk fo the profits from oil sales away from the people of the region.

    Dont you know whats going on?

    The USA supported the dictactor Mubarak in Eqypt from the 1980s right up until he was forced to step down by his own people who had enough of his tyranny and killings and theft.

    Good mates - want to see pictures of Saddam and the Bushes? You can shove you head in the sand - but the people you oppress and kill will not[QUOTE]

    Hello? The US has to work with other countries even if we don't agree with them or their policies, unless we want to be isolationists or go to war. ALL countries who trade and try to work with one another do.
    Last edited by ChrisL; 09-13-12 at 01:19 AM. Reason: I don't know why this isn't quoting right

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If what you say is true, then why are we always trying to change countries into democracies? If what you say is true, that would surely work against us when the people are having open and free (hopefully) elections. Iraq for instance.
    The historical record shows that US foreign policy is not about spreading democracy - that is a media propaganda tool used to justify many things - including wars and economic sanctions

    Why isnt the USA asking the most brutal dictatorship in the Middle East to have a democratic society? I am talking about Saudi Arabia?

    And you make the assumption that the USA itself is a democracy when it is clearly not

    The USA is techincally an Oligarchy - a corpocratic form of state protected fascism.

    And this is the model the military industrial machine exports to the world -

    And like Goerge Orwell warned, "black is white" "love is hate" "good is evil" "capitalist corportarism is democracy"

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Besides, why are we to blame? Because we give them money that these dictators are supposed to spend on their people but don't? And then they kill their own people, and that's our fault too? That doesn't even make sense to me.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    [QUOTE=ChrisL;1060903473][QUOTE=Klown;1060903463][QUOTE]Thats the point

    The USA supports dictators and fascist military states in the region that oppress their people

    Us and western corporates then funnel the bulk fo the profits from oil sales away from the people of the region.

    Dont you know whats going on?

    The USA supported the dictactor Mubarak in Eqypt from the 1980s right up until he was forced to step down by his own people who had enough of his tyranny and killings and theft.

    Good mates - want to see pictures of Saddam and the Bushes? You can shove you head in the sand - but the people you oppress and kill will not

    Hello? The US has to work with other countries even if we don't agree with them or their policies, unless we want to be isolationists or go to war. ALL countries who trade and try to work with one another do.
    lol

    almost fell off my chair

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    The historical record shows that US foreign policy is not about spreading democracy - that is a media propaganda tool used to justify many things - including wars and economic sanctions

    Why isnt the USA asking the most brutal dictatorship in the Middle East to have a democratic society? I am talking about Saudi Arabia?

    And you make the assumption that the USA itself is a democracy when it is clearly not

    The USA is techincally an Oligarchy - a corpocratic form of state protected fascism.

    And this is the model the military industrial machine exports to the world -

    And like Goerge Orwell warned, "black is white" "love is hate" "good is evil" "capitalist corportarism is democracy"
    You don't make any sense. On the one hand, you say the US should NOT try to force democracy on another country or "our ways" and then in the same breath you ask why are we not demanding they have a democracy?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    [QUOTE=Klown;1060903481][QUOTE=ChrisL;1060903473][QUOTE=Klown;1060903463]
    Thats the point

    The USA supports dictators and fascist military states in the region that oppress their people

    Us and western corporates then funnel the bulk fo the profits from oil sales away from the people of the region.

    Dont you know whats going on?

    The USA supported the dictactor Mubarak in Eqypt from the 1980s right up until he was forced to step down by his own people who had enough of his tyranny and killings and theft.

    Good mates - want to see pictures of Saddam and the Bushes? You can shove you head in the sand - but the people you oppress and kill will not

    lol

    almost fell off my chair
    ah-ah-ah . . . Stick to the topic and no insults, no matter how subtle.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Besides, why are we to blame? Because we give them money that these dictators are supposed to spend on their people but don't? And then they kill their own people, and that's our fault too? That doesn't even make sense to me.
    US foreign aid is NOT a blank cheque so that noble leaders can buy food and build hospitals. The bulk of US foreign aid is in the form of military aid and contracts to US corporations for specific projects. Its called aid for propaganda purposes as well as because it is given away - but the strings attached are very thick ropes indeed

    Why werent the Canadian or BUlgarian embassies targeted?

    Have you seen the secuirty at the Swedish embassy?

    Looks like there are people out there who have had enough of US global imperialism and corporatism

    Remember, the USA has over 1000 military installations and bases in over 140 countries all over the world

    It spend more on military than the rest of the world combined

    Who is the threat here?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Apparently he was raped, before they murdered him...

    PICKET:Lebanese paper report - Murdered U.S. Ambassador to Libya reportedly raped - Washington Times

    The only apology that should have been given to these animals should have been delivered at 2900FPS from the muzzle of a Marine M-4A1, too bad they only had time to give the embassador 2 marine bodyguards.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    US foreign aid is NOT a blank cheque so that noble leaders can buy food and build hospitals. The bulk of US foreign aid is in the form of military aid and contracts to US corporations for specific projects. Its called aid for propaganda purposes as well as because it is given away - but the strings attached are very thick ropes indeed

    Why werent the Canadian or BUlgarian embassies targeted?

    Have you seen the secuirty at the Swedish embassy?

    Looks like there are people out there who have had enough of US global imperialism and corporatism

    Remember, the USA has over 1000 military installations and bases in over 140 countries all over the world

    It spend more on military than the rest of the world combined

    Who is the threat here?
    You are really exaggerating here about the US being a threat. We don't threaten any countries that are friendly. Just like in your neighborhood, there's always going to be jerks in the world too, and that is what these people who go around killing INNOCENT people are. I don't see how anyone could defend that, and I don't see how any sane, rational person could do that or even think about doing that to another human being (or human beings) who is INNOCENT.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is an act of war. We should be loading and locking weapons at every embassy and consulate in the Middle East. Upon attack fire until the ammunition runs out. Then bomb them until none are left standing. After that send in the 18th Airborne Corps and the US Marines.

    A real president would not tolerate an attack upon a US embassy or consulate. But we don't have one of those.
    If you really believe what you wrote all I can say is Yikes!

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