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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We need to take these attacks seriously, an attack on a nations consulate/embassy is a very serious act of aggression. I think that killing one of our diplomats in our consulate/embassy is an act of war and should be treated as such (I'm not advocating going to war, but I am advocating treating this more than just an international killing of a US citizen and treating it like it is).
    LMFAO

    Ok lets see where did this attack happen Wait didn't the USA get involved in the civil war over in that same country and help one side with weapons, and support? Hmmm I say the embassy got some Karma dished back at it. I say if there is an act of war the US had blood on its hand long before this embassy was ever attacked.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignElecto View Post
    I never said they were the same thing, and thats is why I said your reading comprehension was in question

    you can try to spin it all you want but anyone can go back and see what I said and see I said that I do NOT compare rape and drunk driving

    what I was comparing were the PEOPLE who made bad decisions to engage in dangerous activities or behaviors which is not the same as comparing actual drunk driving to rape
    So what we learned here was that we shouldn't say or do anything which might possibly be offensive or provocative to Muslims because they'll respond like murderous thugs and we'll have only ourselves to blame.

    Is that today's lesson?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Mitt Romney capitalised on the incident to score political points but it's a backlash.

    Romney Shredded For Embassy Attack Response - Business Insider

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post

    I disagreed with most policies under the Bush regime does that mean I hate Americans ?
    That is a complete straw man, and very dishonest. Repeating traditional canards about Jewish people and applying them to Israel as a whole is NOT the same as taking exception to an administration.
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    YOU know full well I'm not justifying the murder of one of the most integrated Ambassadors in the ME. Fluent in Arabic, and the customs Libya. So, quit with the 'cheap shots'.

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    Of course you did. You legitimized the murders as the inevitable byproduct of the exercize of free speech and indicated that unless we allow Islamists to dictate what we can and cannot say, we should expect more of the same. How is that NOT justification?

    Just because you have been deluded into thinking that if you feed the crocodile it will eat you last, all you are accomplishing by feeding it is to make it stronger.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So what we learned here was that we shouldn't say or do anything which might possibly be offensive or provocative to Muslims because they'll respond like murderous thugs and we'll have only ourselves to blame.

    Is that today's lesson?
    Actually WE didn't.. and we have been manipulated just as the Libyans and Egyptians have been manipulated.

    The movie is to incite the street and they probably have NO idea there was a targeted assassination.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Mitt Romney capitalised on the incident to score political points but it's a backlash.

    Romney Shredded For Embassy Attack Response - Business Insider
    His response was kickass, and he slammed the current administration well (~"this indecision [the white house statement being retracted] represents the larger indecision of his foreign policy" = burn). He will move up in the polls.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    There is that. I was leaning more towards John Stuart Mill,

    "Mill's On Liberty addresses the nature and limits of the power that can be legitimately exercised by society over the individual. One argument that Mill develops further than any previous philosopher is the harm principle. The harm principle holds that each individual has the right to act as he wants, so long as these actions do not harm others"

    John Stuart Mill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I don't disagree with that. But, the guy that did the flick didn't harm anyone...the protestors did.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think that's clear enough. "Sluts" who get raped are the same as drunk drivers, and they are responsible for crashing their own car.
    In the context of the situation I was describing of a person putting themselves in harms way. You are generalizing it to fall under all rapes or take it out of context.

    If a woman is sitting at home a a guy breaks into her house and rapes her is very different than a woman walking down a dark street at night in a bad neighborhood wearing provocative clothing. The woman walking the streets needs to take some personal responsibility and therefore I do not feel sorry for her. Just like I do not feel sorry for a drunk driver who doesn't take responsibility for his drinking, he will then put him self in harms way liek the woman in the street did and I cannot feel sorry for him.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    we have been manipulated just as the Libyans and Egyptians have been manipulated.
    By whom?


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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So what we learned here was that we shouldn't say or do anything which might possibly be offensive or provocative to Muslims because they'll respond like murderous thugs and we'll have only ourselves to blame.

    Is that today's lesson?

    No today's lesson is DO NOT be surprised if you reap what you sew

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