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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's good to see Muslims becoming involved in the debate.
    WTF????

    Sling innuendos often? Must not have any real debate or logic if innuendos are all you can sling

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your analogy between Muslims and the animal world is noted.
    Americans can also be provoked to violence.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You claimed it was relevant to the point of your word trumping his!
    The regions where I served add nothing to my original point.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Very true. Hypothetically, 'If we knowingly place a murderous racist thug in a cell with a defenseless Black inmate and the racist thug murders the Black cell mate. Are we culpable for placing him in that situation?
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    If you know that by putting a racist thug in the same cell as a defenseless Black man will result in his death then yes, you are culpable.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, I do not. People are responsible for their own actions. Neither dressing sexy nor gay is a criminal offence in the event of an attack.
    Ok let me see if I have this right

    people are responsible for their own actions... yet they are then NOT responsible (or have any responsibility) for how they dress or carry themselves or where they go late at night when they get assaulted or raped?

    I am not saying their rape or assault is ever right or justified but at the same time I am saying that the people who put themselves in such position or places to be assualted are partially responsible for what happens to them

    you seem to think they have no personal responsibility but the bottom line is they got raped or assaulted didn't they?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignElecto View Post
    WTF????

    Sling innuendos often? Must not have any real debate or logic if innuendos are all you can sling
    Well excuuuuuuuuuse me!

    I just haven't seen violence against women being the woman's fault anywhere outside of the religion of peace.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignElecto View Post
    no what you have is a poor reading comprehension
    No, what I have is a PhD (nearly) and my reading comprehension is undeniably fine given that.

    What you have is the equating of being raped with driving drunk.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, I meant actual physical actions, not speech (merely words).

    I've been adressing your contention that people should be held legally liable for the provocation of murderous violence (not the prejudice part).
    Well, what limits would you place on free speech? None at all. Would you be happy to have Fox and Friends suggesting ways and means of getting close to Obama and popping a cap in his ass?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Americans can also be provoked to violence.
    Yeah, but normally it takes more than a movie. Like hijacked airplanes crashing into our buildings and killing 3000 of our citizens. We find that quite provocative.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    The regions where I served add nothing to my original point.

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    You claimed that your word trumped his because you've "been there". When asked where, you claim that to be irrelevant?

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