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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh, please. Here comes that Euro-version of free speech.
    Or the dumb... American not realizing inflammatory actions will incite such actions by murdering fanatics. Who'd of thought it, hey?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignElecto View Post
    I'm "Meh" to it all..

    As for the killing of the American Ambassador, well thats the chance he took when he was over in such a hostile environment where the US has had such a dirty hand in so many dealings.

    Call it Karma or just retribution but no real loss to me, the US will learn through these killings that they (THE US) cannot play such games without impunity
    So you feel the violence and rioting is justified. Great.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Or the dumb... American not realizing inflammatory actions will incite such actions by murdering fanatics. Who'd of thought it, hey?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I believe it is the other way around in that you don't see the difference between Jews and Israel. You hate Israel....for what reason? Did this nation do something to you? No. Yet you choose, out of al the countries on earth, to have this seething negativity towards the single nation composed almost entirely of Jews. You are the obvious anti-semite and you try to mask it by trying to isolate it to a nation...that has done absolutely nothing to you.

    If you actually cared to look beyond your simple bigotry, you wuold see that Israel is the single location in the Middle east where Muslims of all tribes are free to worship as they wish without persecution. Arab is a national language. Street signs are written in Arabic. The Israeli government holds Muslim representation. Find that in any Muslim government. But you dislike...Israel? Must be the Jew in it.
    You're projecting onto me what you perceive to be an innate hatred of Israel on the part of Islamist/anti-semitic leftist or extreme rightist ideologies. I don't remotely hate Israel, I rather admire it, I certainly admire the tenacity and resilience of many, if not all, ordinary Israelis who I believe have been badly served by their politicians and religious leaders for a long, long time.

    You might like to link to any of my posts where I demonstrate my anti-semitic tendencies. That may take you some time.

    My contributions on this thread refer exclusively to the disproportionate and undeniable influence that the Israeli government and its lobby in Washington has over US Middle-eastern policy irrespective of which party holds the White House. Perhaps you think that in holding this view I must therefore inevitably hold views such as the idea that Jews control the media and global capitalism, that Mossad was responsible for 9/11 and that Jews make matzos out of the blood of gentile babies. Sorry to disappoint you.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The U.S. embassy had put out a statement earlier on Tuesday condemning "misguided individuals" who hurt the religious feelings of Muslims or followers of other religions.

    "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others," the U.S. embassy said in its statement.....snip~


    Team Obama's first released statement.


    Although it was not clear which film prompted the protests, Egypt's prestigious Al-Azhar mosque and seat of Sunni learning condemned on Tuesday a symbolic "trial" of the Prophet organized by a U.S. group including Terry Jones, a Christian pastor who triggered riots in Afghanistan in 2010 by threatening to burn the Koran.....snip~

    Egyptians angry at film scale U.S. embassy walls - Yahoo! News


    Funny how they haven't given the Name of that SUNNI Cleric that Spoke out and condemmned this Movie that was made last year.
    I don't think Terry Jones had anything to do with it. He certainly has no money for production costs, dubbing and translations or distribution.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignElecto View Post
    I'm "Meh" to it all..

    As for the killing of the American Ambassador, well thats the chance he took when he was over in such a hostile environment where the US has had such a dirty hand in so many dealings.

    Call it Karma or just retribution but no real loss to me, the US will learn through these killings that they (THE US) cannot play such games without impunity
    Wherever Muslims gather together in any great numbers tends to become a hostile environment.

    The loss of the Ambassador saddened far more people than the loss of your life ever would.

    I guess we can call that Karma or just retribution as well.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While I understand that, I'm not going to excuse interventionist forever war as an acceptable and proper solution to such a problem.
    I suppose it depends on the problem.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We do not limit our rights according to the sensitivities of terrorists.
    Then don't be so surprised when the murdering fanatics do what they know best.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    This is the biggest charge placed on European posters by most American users, on this board, and repeated to ad nauseam. They just cant believe it is possible to be critical of a Countries policy and not hate it's population....
    Yes, when you repeat the absolutely CLASSIC antisemitic canard about Jews being manipulative puppetmasters, but change the word "Jew" to "Israel", there are some of us who are not fooled by the subterfuge. When you then try to claim that this canard is somehow a valid a criticism of Israel policy, some of us will call you on that ruse, too.

    The only reason some of the American posters are doing this (ad nauseam as you say) is that so many of you European posters follow the same script ad nauseam. Not all do, of course, as Arcana doesn't, Djoop doesn't and Ben doesn't, but there are plenty who do.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Cartoons cause provocation and violence, movies cause provocation and violence, books cause provocation and violence, advertising causes provocation and violence. The list appears to be endless.

    What do you suggest the western world do in order to be sure we never provoke Muslims?
    First of all, the list is endless because everything is offensive to Muslims.

    Second, one wouldn't go out of his way to paint "**** Jesus" on the side of a bus and park it at a church or "**** Darkie" on a bus and park it in the ghetto if they weren't expecting a rise, maybe even a violent retaliation from somebody. This person should except the responsibility of his obvious provocation, because nobody tuning in would be surprised with his bruises. I don't see burning Qu'rans (Bibles) as a simple hapless display of freedom simply because the needless offense is against Muslims. And since this recent violent event wasn't entirely based on this video, there's no sense in adding it to the category. But the truth is that this "director" merely wanted to express his personal hatreds...not "whistle blow the religion" for which even the dumbest of authors have done a better educational job through books.

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