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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What has this attack to do with "US foreign policy?"
    Probably nothing at all.

    Who could ever predict something like this??

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I thought he was compared to Van Gogh? Not riots but potential death threats and murder. Obviously if anyone criticizes Islam they anticipate threats, as sad as that may be.

    They get criticized here in Chicago.....and the Gang Bangers will say or write anything they like about the Prophet Mohammed. Do you think any Arabs stand up and do anything? Do you think they call and make death threats to the Bangers here. They get their azz beat around here anytime and all the time. NOT ONE OF THEM Got any balls to stand up to Bangers. Who will Pull a pistol out and start popping caps in their azzes. NOW WHY is it Not One Arab will get up and Open their big mouth or why is it that Not ONE Will Attempt to do anything about it.

    DO you think they understand those who wont play with them?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Should we have shared the planet with the Nazis in 1941?
    So now you are comparing Muslims to Nazies? .... tsk... that ended that debate fast. Guess I could start comparing Nazi actions to that of Israel to make it a full closing of the thread or moving it to the Middle East dictatorship area.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ... and what the governmental authorities did when they learned the protest and then battle was going on. I am waiting to hear the body count of Libyan law enforcement and military in trying to defend the embassy. If it is zero, I count it as an act of war by the Libyan government against the USA.
    Thanks for the reply , we finally we are getting at the heart of the matter!!!!!!! What action did the Libya government take in this situation? If they intentionally allowed or aided these people then clearly it is an act of war. If they were simply negligent, I would hold them accountable, but, I would be not so fast to declare war on this country. There are other ways to handle this within governments which are more effective while getting a desired result.


    The Libya already admitted to a breach of security.

    Libyan officials spent the night in a manhunt trying to find those responsible for the killings, which occurred when an angry armed mob attacked the diplomatic complex. By midday Wednesday, no one had been arrested for the violence or the deaths, and officials in Tripoli were scrambling to implement a response to what they admitted was a monumental security breach.

    Libya's new government has struggled to impose its authority on a myriad of gangs and former rebel brigades that remain armed and act outside the law. New security officials have had mixed success in implementing a plan whereby former rebels would be disbanded from their old brigades and given jobs as part of the new national army, defense forces and border guards.

    One witness to the consulate attack Tuesday night said that a handful of Libyan soldiers dressed in the uniform of the new national army were on patrol outside the U.S. diplomatic structure when the mob arrived, but that they were almost immediately overwhelmed.
    U.S. Ambassador to Libya Is Killed - WSJ.com

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes we do, but their irrationalities do not trump my freedom.
    Soooooo, had he simply decided to be responsible he would not have his unearned freedom? To have freedom means irresponsible acts? You see, it's easy to practice your freedoms irresponsibly when you don't have to face the consequences. That's for others to die for. The same others who actually have earned their freedoms and die because people like this director leech from them.

    I find no courage in a person who is so full of hate that they would produce film or burn Qu'rans.....yet never even face them. It's the worst kind of coward our Western privileged society produces.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes, but you have to remember that this is not the Libya of Gadaffi.. law and order is at best a bit iffy, and "government control" is hardly universal. They are still arguing over who should hold Saif Gadaffi.



    Yes they did, but considering that the attack could have been by Al Q and battle harden terrorists.. then not much they could have done. One could say, that it was stupid to have a consulate there in the first place.



    Nope US law.. well actually US law does apply within the consulate. Hence the murder of the Ambassador could be tried in the US.. including a trial against the maker of the movie.. in theory any ways. We shall see..

    Enough of this.. blood pressure getting too high, time to not debate for a few hours.... stupid high blood pressure crap.

    Within the consulate yes, but, that is not applicable to the gravamen of the argument.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So now you are comparing Muslims to Nazies? .... tsk... that ended that debate fast. Guess I could start comparing Nazi actions to that of Israel to make it a full closing of the thread or moving it to the Middle East dictatorship area.
    No, I'm comparing bad guys to bad guys. You sound as if you condone the violence waged against my people yesterday. Is that what you're doing?

    Let's face it, these people hate us. They're taught to hate us. The Koran tells them to hate us. It's in their DNA. No amount of appeasement is going to change their minds. They can't be reasoned with. The movie was just a convenient excuse; short of that, they would have come up with almost any excuse to do something like this.

    I'm sick and tired of these mother****ers and their apologists.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The Ambassador and staffers NEVER insulted Islam or the Prophet.... Americans should NOT be paying for Israeli actions.
    As far as I know.....the film director doesnt call the shots for Israel.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Disa west, that if you insult Islam then the reaction among some Muslims will be violent.

    Now do I like the fact that we have to tiptoe around Muslims .. HELLLL no, but I also would rather tiptoe around Muslims than have riots and mass deaths. Especially when I know that the radical aspects of Islam use such provocations to gain and maintain their hold on the population. Basically such provocations push more and more people towards the radical part of Islam.. and that is exactly what we dont want.. and exactly what the movie maker and his followers do want.
    The bolded amounts to placating and deferring to terrorists- and it is cowardly. You don't tolerate and tiptoe around violence to stop it. You confront it head-on. I don't care what their religion is, and I don't care if they believe we are all infidels. There are some of them who refuse to act in a civilized manner, and you don't treat incivility with tolerance, unless you want to encourage its growth.

    They need to grow up and understand that their God is no more sacred than anyone else's.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So now you are comparing Muslims to Nazies? .... tsk... that ended that debate fast. Guess I could start comparing Nazi actions to that of Israel to make it a full closing of the thread or moving it to the Middle East dictatorship area.
    Those Islamists who kill people for insulting their religion are more like Nazis than they are unlike when it comes to rigidity of belief and the punishment they would mete out to those who do not adhere to such.

    As to your potential statement comparing Nazi actions to Israel, you are certainly free to do so if you wish to say something truly stupid. At least for now, we still have that much freedom of expression here in the west, even if it is to display we don't have too much going on between the ears.
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