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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I always appreciate just how much people reveal about their inner beliefs. Are anti-Islamic films the only brakes you would like to see on expression? Or would you also prevent global warming deniers a voice? Are there any other voices you want to silence? Why do you hate liberty so much? What is it about freedom that frightens you?
    I never said anything about censoring anything. Please stop the strawman attack right there. What I implied though is that religious radicals purposely provoke other religious radicals. Its just the other religious radicals turn out to be the enemy that we are engaged in a war with. The premeditated activity orchestrated by American religious radicals gave prime opportunity to the enemy. The key word in my claim was the word almost. Since Al Queda seems to have capitalized on the film it was almost aiding and abetting the enemy. Which means in all appearance they gave a way for Al queda to do something to us. I did not claim that anyone did anything illegal.

    Global warming, silence voices, hate liberty, the prospect freedom frighting me, had nothing to do with anything that I said. In fact I would say that your post was nothing but fallacious nonsense.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    In the age of Big Brother nothing is as it seems. And Big Brother has all his bases covered.

    There is no other explanation for the betrayal against human rights and international law displayed by "liberal" talk hosts and news sites, who provide cover for Obama and the Democrats.

    AntiwarsRaimondo is a govmnt front, supported the surge in Falluja, Iraq like Al Franken nd Juan Cole. We all know the US napalmed and committed war crimes there sealing the people off from aid, food and electricity. A civillian target some "liberals" said was ok to decimate. Much in the same way, Ed Schultz, a "liberal" (read: Democrat Party/ establishment hack) says he supports Obama scorched earth in Libya, (Quaddafi a terrorist, lather, rinse, repeat) Democracy Now parrots govmnt line on Syria, to hell with international law, scumbag Tom Hartman says vote for Obama (and the bloodbath) Amnesty is now a govmnt mouthpiece for corporate/military rape and pillage, kill the Assad Family even though assasinating a foreign head of state is a war crime. So now at info clearing house we true libs get disinfo just like CNN, Fox and NBC give the Left (and the truth) a knife in the back.

    No more ****ty articles from Hitchens and Alex Cockburn, though - thank god. Be more discerning, we hate phony Left like AntiWar, just like we hate HuffPo sellouts, and TPM, Democrat astroturf sites, who sell us Bushs murder and imperialism via stealth, hidden behind a black face.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    In the age of Big Brother nothing is as it seems. And Big Brother has all his bases covered.

    There is no other explanation for the betrayal against human rights and international law displayed by "liberal" talk hosts and news sites, who provide cover for Obama and the Democrats.

    AntiwarsRaimondo is a govmnt front, supported the surge in Falluja, Iraq like Al Franken nd Juan Cole. We all know the US napalmed and committed war crimes there sealing the people off from aid, food and electricity. A civillian target some "liberals" said was ok to decimate. Much in the same way, Ed Schultz, a "liberal" (read: Democrat Party/ establishment hack) says he supports Obama scorched earth in Libya, (Quaddafi a terrorist, lather, rinse, repeat) Democracy Now parrots govmnt line on Syria, to hell with international law, scumbag Tom Hartman says vote for Obama (and the bloodbath) Amnesty is now a govmnt mouthpiece for corporate/military rape and pillage, kill the Assad Family even though assasinating a foreign head of state is a war crime. So now at info clearing house we true libs get disinfo just like CNN, Fox and NBC give the Left (and the truth) a knife in the back.

    No more ****ty articles from Hitchens and Alex Cockburn, though - thank god. Be more discerning, we hate phony Left like AntiWar, just like we hate HuffPo sellouts, and TPM, Democrat astroturf sites, who sell us Bushs murder and imperialism via stealth, hidden behind a black face.
    50 Libyan terrorists were arrested yesterday.. Libya will hang them

    FBI were deployed to Libya on Saturday.

    FBI deployed in Libya to hunt down the murderers of Ambassador Stevens - Wichita Military Affairs | Examiner.com

    Marines have been deployed to protect the Embassy in Sana'a , Yemen.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You'd be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for us...



    Blame Al Quada



    Those nations have nothing to do with the situation. Straw Man much?
    And you would be speaking German if it wasnt for the Russians who defeated the main fascist Nazi threat in Europe

    In fact, days before the US carried out its terrorist nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan had already surrended to the Soviet Union

    This was good enough for the imperialist US juggernaught, the Japan had to surrender to the US unconditionally.

    And to experiment with nuclear weapons the cowardly US military dropped nukes on civilian targets.

    How Christian of you

    How moral of you

    How nice of you

    Let us hear from some Americans who were involved in the Nuking of civilians:

    ADMIRAL WILLIAM D. LEAHY
    (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman)

    "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.

    "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."

    - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441.


    DWIGHT EISENHOWER
    "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..."

    - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    50 Libyan terrorists were arrested yesterday.. Libya will hang them

    FBI were deployed to Libya on Saturday.

    FBI deployed in Libya to hunt down the murderers of Ambassador Stevens - Wichita Military Affairs | Examiner.com

    Marines have been deployed to protect the Embassy in Sana'a , Yemen.
    Interesting, in Lybia if people threated US or western interests they are labeled terrorists

    when the same people were doing the same things against Gadafi, or in Iraq or cirrently in Syria, they receive funding and arms from the US and are called freedom fighters or part of a democratic movement

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    You said, "the moderate Christians should join together to stop the radicals here in America. For example some Christian radicals in America produced a anti-islam film obviously to get their radical counterparts in Islam to go bat **** crazy."

    I belived (rightly?) that you are intent on silencing messages you do not approve of.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I never said anything about censoring anything. Please stop the strawman attack right there.
    LOL. What did you mean then?

    What I implied though is that religious radicals purposely provoke other religious radicals. Its just the other religious radicals turn out to be the enemy that we are engaged in a war with. The premeditated activity orchestrated by American religious radicals gave prime opportunity to the enemy. The key word in my claim was the word almost. Since Al Queda seems to have capitalized on the film it was almost aiding and abetting the enemy. Which means in all appearance they gave a way for Al queda to do something to us. I did not claim that anyone did anything illegal.
    In other words, "Nothing." Understood.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    In the age of Big Brother nothing is as it seems. And Big Brother has all his bases covered.

    There is no other explanation for the betrayal against human rights and international law displayed by "liberal" talk hosts and news sites, who provide cover for Obama and the Democrats.

    AntiwarsRaimondo is a govmnt front, supported the surge in Falluja, Iraq like Al Franken nd Juan Cole. We all know the US napalmed and committed war crimes there sealing the people off from aid, food and electricity. A civillian target some "liberals" said was ok to decimate. Much in the same way, Ed Schultz, a "liberal" (read: Democrat Party/ establishment hack) says he supports Obama scorched earth in Libya, (Quaddafi a terrorist, lather, rinse, repeat) Democracy Now parrots govmnt line on Syria, to hell with international law, scumbag Tom Hartman says vote for Obama (and the bloodbath) Amnesty is now a govmnt mouthpiece for corporate/military rape and pillage, kill the Assad Family even though assasinating a foreign head of state is a war crime. So now at info clearing house we true libs get disinfo just like CNN, Fox and NBC give the Left (and the truth) a knife in the back.

    No more ****ty articles from Hitchens and Alex Cockburn, though - thank god. Be more discerning, we hate phony Left like AntiWar, just like we hate HuffPo sellouts, and TPM, Democrat astroturf sites, who sell us Bushs murder and imperialism via stealth, hidden behind a black face.
    Kane, it seems you have something valuable to say. This did not do it. Try to separate out your rage against corporations from the legitimate concerns you have. I could not understand your rant. Please turn it into something reasonable people can read and understand.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    And you would be speaking German if it wasnt for the Russians who defeated the main fascist Nazi threat in Europe
    The great patriotic war has been a favorite area of study for me. Had it not been for the Russian presence the West would not have won.

    In fact, days before the US carried out its terrorist nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan had already surrended to the Soviet Union
    August Storm rushed Soviet troops toward Japan. Of course the State Department was compromised. and the Soviet Union know of our plans to destroy Hiroshima and another city (Nagasaki) with atomic fires. J. Stalin knew. He wanted portions of Japan.

    This was good enough for the imperialist US juggernaught, the Japan had to surrender to the US unconditionally.

    And to experiment with nuclear weapons the cowardly US military dropped nukes on civilian targets.

    How Christian of you

    How moral of you

    How nice of you

    Let us hear from some Americans who were involved in the Nuking of civilians:

    ADMIRAL WILLIAM D. LEAHY
    (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman)

    "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.

    "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."

    - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441.


    DWIGHT EISENHOWER
    "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..."

    - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380
    There were many opinions. In your opinion should we have foregone the use of small nuclear weapons and invaded instead? On a wonderful book called Marching Orders by Bruce Lee it is clear that based on top secret MAGIC summaries that the Japanese leaders knew that they must surrender of face horrible consequences.
    Here is what the book says:

    1. The Japanese issued orders to kill all allied prisoners of war once the invasion began
    2. The Japanese military had been given permission to seek out the USSR to establish a peace treaty.

    53 million people were killed during world war II.

    So what would you suggest?
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 09-16-12 at 11:24 PM.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    And you would be speaking German if it wasnt for the Russians who defeated the main fascist Nazi threat in Europe
    Not even close. Sure, the Russians did their part but it was America that brought the Germans to their knees

    In fact, days before the US carried out its terrorist nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan had already surrended to the Soviet Union

    This was good enough for the imperialist US juggernaught, the Japan had to surrender to the US unconditionally.
    And the Soviets declined... so we bombed the Japanese.

    And to experiment with nuclear weapons the cowardly US military dropped nukes on civilian targets.
    Those "cowards" just tore apart one of the most savage and intense armies in the world

    How Christian of you
    I am not a Christian

    How moral of you
    I think the bombings were moral

    How nice of you
    I am one of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet, in reality

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    COLOR="#0000CD"]Let us hear from some Americans who were involved in the Nuking of civilians:[/COLOR]

    ADMIRAL WILLIAM D. LEAHY
    (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman)

    "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.

    "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."

    - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441.


    DWIGHT EISENHOWER
    "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..."

    - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    53 million people were killed during world war II.

    So wwhat would you suggest?
    ...and about half of them were Russian.

    The total human death toll for ALL of the wars that the USA has been engaged in (including the civil war) is about 1.2 million American deaths.

    Are you aware of what Harry Trumann said after the terrorist nuclear attacks and US war crimes perpetrated on teh civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

    Look it up - it was Trumann's decision to drop the nukes!

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