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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You misunderstand. The intent was to destroy the ability to make war, not to decimate the civilian population. Had we had the weaponry we have now, we wouldn't have needed to take such drastic actions.



    Incorrect. The intent was to destroy the industrial capability of the enemy.
    British Objectives for Strategic Bombing campaign.

    The purpose of the area bombardment of cities was laid out in a British Air Staff paper, dated 23 September 1941:
    "The ultimate aim of an attack on a town area is to break the morale of the population which occupies it. To ensure this, we must achieve two things: first, we must make the town physically uninhabitable and, secondly, we must make the people conscious of constant personal danger. The immediate aim, is therefore, twofold, namely, to produce (i) destruction and (ii) fear of death."[


    American Strategic Bombing Campiagn aim:
    General LeMay, commander of XXI Bomber Command, instead switched to mass firebombing night attacks from altitudes of around 7,000 feet (2,100 m) on the major conurbations. "He looked up the size of the large Japanese cities in the World Almanac and picked his targets accordingly."[167] Priority targets were Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka, and Kobe. Despite limited early success, particularly against Nagoya, LeMay was determined to use such bombing tactics against the vulnerable Japanese cities. Attacks on strategic targets also continued in lower-level daylight raids

    The United States strategic bombing of Japan took place between 1942 and 1945. In the last seven months of the campaign, a change to firebombing resulted in great destruction of 67 Japanese cities, as many as 500,000 Japanese deaths and some 5 million more made homeless. Emperor Hirohito's viewing of the destroyed areas of Tokyo in March 1945, is said to have been the beginning of his personal involvement in the peace process, culminating in Japan's surrender five months later.[165]

    No it was to hit the civilian population centers deliberately. Like I said it was to break the will of the Japanese and German people. There are plenty of War Dept. memos, and papers stating this. We actually did full scale mock ups of german towns to figure out the best way to burn em to the ground. When it comes to war a lot of americans seem to have this idea we are an honorable play by the rules dont hurt incocents intentionaly lot. We are far from that we are as ruthless and in some cases more ruthless than many other nations.

    We switched to firebombs deliberately to start firestorms in the middle of populated areas. We werent after precision we were after devestaion.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Generally its US citizens who take ownership of that cosmic claim.

    Are you rationalising the slaughter of innocent civilians in nations that didnt attack the USA, on the basis of the number of maritine deaths of asylum seekers attempting to enter the USA?

    At least those people made the conscious CHOICE to board a leaky boat and take the risk on the high seas to travel to the USA.

    Again you need to explain what 1.4 million Iraqis and 350,000 Afagan civilians did you or the USA?

    What did 4.2 million Vietnamese civilians do the USA?

    Why does the USA require 1000+ military installations and bases in over 140 countries all over the world?

    Why does the USA spend more on its military than all other nations combined?

    Who is threatening US soveriegnty and its borders?

    Do you even understand why these fascist US imperial tentacles are there in the first place?

    They are not there for you!
    You'd be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for us...

    Yes I suppose after 9/11 which only resulted in about 3000 deaths, the USA attacked Afganastan and Iraq and corporatised their oil and resources into US interests and caused 1.4 milion Iraqi and 350,000 Afagan civilian deaths.
    Blame Al Quada

    Perhaps seeing as a US embassy was bombed in Yemen that resulted in 4 deaths, the US military can attack North Korea, Iran or even invade Indonesia?
    Those nations have nothing to do with the situation. Straw Man much?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that's just what I was suggesting.
    I think we cleared that up at least 2 years ago.

    Now tell me, after your last visit, how's Anders Breivik getting on in gaol?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Every time something happens they blame America...
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I think we cleared that up at least 2 years ago.

    Now tell me, after your last visit, how's Anders Breivik getting on in gaol?
    We covered what two years ago?

    And as far as Breivik is concerned, whatever your interest in him might be, aren't you in Europe?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Since Al Queda seems to have capitalized in the film it was almost a aiding and abetting the enemy.

    This is such Bull! You want to talk about 'aiding and abetting'? How about the $90 Billion that Obama gave the Hezi's upon coming into office? How about the snubbing of our ally Israel, while meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood leader at the WH? How about the fecklessness, the lack of leadership from this President in terms of the ME, so much so that AQ now feels it can attack, rape, kill our ambassador, and burn the consulate to the ground with impunity, and they can and do! How about letting Iran play him for a fool while they keep moving forward to devolop their Nuke, placing Israel in direct danger?

    At every step this moron of a President has apologized, begged, and tried to make nice with our enemies while they laugh in his face, and the world will suffer for that.

    Treason? you bet you ass it is. But not from the right side of the isle, no, the left has the monopoly on that little action.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Really? I can do that?
    Yes. If you are a nation state who will stop you?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    and these are radical Christians terrorizing people to become Christians or die? Why not just admit that you have nothing? Or better, why not just be quiet as you add nothing of value?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Well yea just as the moderate Christians should join together to stop the radicals here in America. For example some Christian radicals in America produced a anti-islam film obviously to get their radical counterparts in Islam to go bat **** crazy. Since Al Queda seems to have capitalized in the film it was almost a aiding and abetting the enemy.

    Attacking Mecca would only be viewed as an act of religious war, especially if it were done by a political party that considers itself a Christian movement to restore god to the nation.

    Statements like "one nation under god" or "in god we trust" or "Christian nation" imply that America a political-religious entity. Your religion was never an issue here.
    I always appreciate just how much people reveal about their inner beliefs. Are anti-Islamic films the only brakes you would like to see on expression? Or would you also prevent global warming deniers a voice? Are there any other voices you want to silence? Why do you hate liberty so much? What is it about freedom that frightens you?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is such Bull! You want to talk about 'aiding and abetting'? How about the $90 Billion that Obama gave the Hezi's upon coming into office? How about the snubbing of our ally Israel, while meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood leader at the WH? How about the fecklessness, the lack of leadership from this President in terms of the ME, so much so that AQ now feels it can attack, rape, kill our ambassador, and burn the consulate to the ground with impunity, and they can and do! How about letting Iran play him for a fool while they keep moving forward to devolop their Nuke, placing Israel in direct danger?

    At every step this moron of a President has apologized, begged, and tried to make nice with our enemies while they laugh in his face, and the world will suffer for that.

    Treason? you bet you ass it is. But not from the right side of the isle, no, the left has the monopoly on that little action.
    Oh Im sorry I do not want to get into the middle of a presidential campaign message thank you. Nor do I see how Obama has anything to do with what I said directly.

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