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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I will chalk it up to general liberal jack assery.
    He may be many things that you would dislike politically, but I've a feeling he's no liberal.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, that's a judgement for you to make, you're American, I'm not.
    Really? I am supposed to know that? Also, frankly then since you are not American, mind telling us which country that benefits from America's force, and the blood of America's soldiers you reap the benefits of safety from?

    Isn't it slightly ironic that you refuse to make formal declarations of war for your wars, yet still behave as if they were, suspending normal behaviour.
    Isn't is slightly ironic that you enjoy the comfort of being able to make these judgements from the safety of your living room, protected by the very people you condemn?

    Then, when convenient, you'll categorise enemy combatants as terrorists because no state of war technically exists.
    Worry not friend, with increasing frequency the state sponsors of terrorism are revealing themselves. And when they do, I am sure you along with many other misguided liberal peoples will beg for the protection of Stars and Stripes.

    And you act all surprised when people don't view you as a positive force for good in the world.
    Well, Your opinion of the US, and the reality of what the US is are two different things.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    He may be many things that you would dislike politically, but I've a feeling he's no liberal.

    Who cares what he calls himself?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? I am supposed to know that? Also, frankly then since you are not American, mind telling us which country that benefits from America's force, and the blood of America's soldiers you reap the benefits of safety from?
    As far as I can see, most of the western world has been made an infinitely LESS safe place due to the actions of the US, and its crusader allies like the UK, in the past 12 years.

    Isn't is slightly ironic that you enjoy the comfort of being able to make these judgements from the safety of your living room, protected by the very people you condemn?
    You ain't protecting me, you're endangering me.

    Worry not friend, with increasing frequency the state sponsors of terrorism are revealing themselves. And when they do, I am sure you along with many other misguided liberal peoples will beg for the protection of Stars and Stripes.
    We'll see.

    Well, Your opinion of the US, and the reality of what the US is are two different things.
    I doesn't surprise me that you would hold such an opinion. I do look forward to the day when the US does return to being a positive force in the geo-political firmament. I had hopes for Obama, but much of the world that welcomed him so warmly are feeling let down. I don't think anyone outside of the GOP heartland would have any such aspirations for a Romney presidency. In other words, I'm not holding my breath.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, terrorism describes the effect of an action on a population. The effect is the key, not the intention. A population can be terrorised by unintended consequences of intentional actions. Those launching drone attacks cannot guarantee the safety of civilians therefore in launching them they accept that civilian casualties will be the consequence. The civilian population is thereby terrorised. What part of this isn't terrorism?
    The part when the civilians are being targeted with the intention to terrorize them and make them fear. Without this part the action cannot possibly be described as terrorism and in the world of warfare it is rather known as collateral damage, unintended damage.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The part when the civilians are being targeted with the intention to terrorize them and make them fear. Without this part the action cannot possibly be described as terrorism and in the world of warfare it is rather known as collateral damage, unintended damage.
    When the action is undertaken, knowing the possible outcome and the high likelihood of 'collateral damage' (what weasel words are they?), then it is intentional, even if the 'primary' target might be legitimate enemy combatants.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    As far as I can see, most of the western world has been made an infinitely LESS safe place due to the actions of the US, and its crusader allies like the UK, in the past 12 years.

    You ain't protecting me, you're endangering me.

    We'll see.

    I doesn't surprise me that you would hold such an opinion. I do look forward to the day when the US does return to being a positive force in the geo-political firmament. I had hopes for Obama, but much of the world that welcomed him so warmly are feeling let down. I don't think anyone outside of the GOP heartland would have any such aspirations for a Romney presidency. In other words, I'm not holding my breath.
    Just so we can make a well assessed determination, Which country do you hail from?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just so we can make a well assessed determination, Which country do you hail from?
    I've been around here long enough for you to be able to work that out.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Since I haven't seen this posted yet, Libya arrested 50 people with connection to the embassy attack.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Since I haven't seen this posted yet, Libya arrested 50 people with connection to the embassy attack.
    Excellent.. Thank you.

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