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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Personally, I like them. I prefer forced conversions to killings. The rest of your questions were mere piffle.
    I see, just disregard the parallels inconvenient to your position. There are extemists in every group, religion, and ideology. Painting the entire group in the color of it's extremists paints you the same color.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Whew~!

    The Americans killed 1.4 million Iraqis?

    I don't like to get picky but do you have anything to support this remarkable claim of yours?
    Actually the research is yours to complete - its actually not a difficult task

    HINT:
    The same two analysts who detemined the number of dead civilians that resulted from Milosovic's actions were used to determine the number of civilian deaths in Iraq at the hands of the invading US forces from 2003 to 2008.

    The USA apparently accepted the evidence in Milosovic's trial at the International Criminal court in the Hague which resulted in his conviction. But couldnt quite stomach the truth when the same analysis was conducted in Iraq by the same analysts using an even larger sample size.

    The USA prefered to rely on US defence force estimates on the civilian death toll (between 60,000 to 130,000 civilian deaths)

    You are welcome to accept the estimates given by the killers themselves or look elsewhere for more accurate estimates.

    Good luck with your research project

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Thought you might be interested in knowing that Media for Christ which broadcasts all over the ME is where the anti-muslim film was made and that is affiliated with Jihad Watch.. So you have mixed business initiatives and a non profit charity controlled by David Horowitz, Pam Geller, Robert Spenser, Steve Klein and Morris Sadek.

    Media for Christ calls itself Evangelical Christian media.
    Oh please....Here we go with the dishonest grouping, and contortion of looking for anything possible to make this seem like it is some giant conservative conspiracy....You don't further discussion when you make such leaps.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Terrorism does not describe an action itself but an intention followed by that action.
    No, terrorism describes the effect of an action on a population. The effect is the key, not the intention. A population can be terrorised by unintended consequences of intentional actions. Those launching drone attacks cannot guarantee the safety of civilians therefore in launching them they accept that civilian casualties will be the consequence. The civilian population is thereby terrorised. What part of this isn't terrorism?
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Actually the research is yours to complete - its actually not a difficult task

    HINT:
    The same two analysts who detemined the number of dead civilians that resulted from Milosovic's actions were used to determine the number of civilian deaths in Iraq at the hands of the invading US forces from 2003 to 2008.

    The USA apparently accepted the evidence in Milosovic's trial at the International Criminal court in the Hague which resulted in his conviction. But couldnt quite stomach the truth when the same analysis was conducted in Iraq by the same analysts using an even larger sample size.

    The USA prefered to rely on US defence force estimates on the civilian death toll (between 60,000 to 130,000 civilian deaths)

    You are welcome to accept the estimates given by the killers themselves or look elsewhere for more accurate estimates.

    Good luck with your research project

    Just a hint. When you make the claim, it is up to YOU to provide evidence, and methodology to back that claim up....Otherwise, it fails.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just a hint. When you make the claim, it is up to YOU to provide evidence, and methodology to back that claim up....Otherwise, it fails.
    Normally I would I agree with you in a formal peer reviewed academic setting.

    In here however, I avoid spoon feeding the trout!

    You will have to verify the accuracy of my post for yourself if you feel it's important enough for you.

    If the deaths of civilians at the hands of the US military machine is not that crucial to your moral disposition, then perhaps you can ignore the above sentences and move on

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, terrorism describes the effect of an action on a population. The effect is the key, not the intention. A population can be terrorised by unintended consequences of intentional actions. Those launching drone attacks cannot guarantee the safety of civilians therefore in launching them they accept that civilian casualties will be the consequence. The civilian population is thereby terrorised. What part of this isn't terrorism?
    No group should get a pass on attacks against the US. What you fail to get is that response to what should be correctly considered acts of war should not go unanswered.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No group should get a pass on attacks against the US. What you fail to get is that response to what should be correctly considered acts of war should not go unanswered.
    Who's getting a pass? If you haven't noticed, we've been in conflict with Al Qaeda for some time now, and will continue to be for the forseeable future.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No group should get a pass on attacks against the US. What you fail to get is that response to what should be correctly considered acts of war should not go unanswered.
    Well, that's a judgement for you to make, you're American, I'm not. Isn't it slightly ironic that you refuse to make formal declarations of war for your wars, yet still behave as if they were, suspending normal behaviour. Then, when convenient, you'll categorise enemy combatants as terrorists because no state of war technically exists. And you act all surprised when people don't view you as a positive force for good in the world.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:9

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Normally I would I agree with you in a formal peer reviewed academic setting.
    Translation: I don't have to back up my own outrageous, unprovable claims.

    In here however, I avoid spoon feeding the trout!
    Intentional insult will not serve you well in life. You should learn that.

    You will have to verify the accuracy of my post for yourself if you feel it's important enough for you.
    No, considering the path you are headed down, with baseless claim, then insult whomever questions your baseless claim, I will chalk it up to general liberal jack assery.

    If the deaths of civilians at the hands of the US military machine is not that crucial to your moral disposition, then perhaps you can ignore the above sentences and move on
    Ah, another Translation: Don't delve too deeply into what I say, or the propaganda I spew, just accept it and move on....Bull ****! You should either learn that DP is a place where discussion is a step above the usual other name calling, baiting, troll sites, or maybe you'd be happier there.
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