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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact, until they surrendered, we did. After that we helped them.
    No, we engaged armed soldiers in battle. We did not target all Italians and all Germans.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    We did not target all Italians and all Germans.
    The people of Dresden might disagree.

    I'm not saying such an action was right or wrong, but we targeted pretty much everything there.
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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    How about we just be honest by neither exaggerating nor minimizing the extent of such support in any of these cases?

    To use the term "only a handful" is just as far off the mark as if one were to have actually said "all", since the numbers in question are magnitudes more than a handful.

    Heck, just familiarize yourself with the subject of apostasy in Islam, where enormous numbers support killing those who leave Islam and you might notice the degree to which this "only a handful" is errant.
    I didn't say only a handful, I said a small percentage, which is true. Familiarize yourself with Christianity which not only supported such acts against their own, but actively sought them out to do it.

    We should pusruse the Muslims (and anyone else) who instigates and conducts violence against us, we should not demonize Muslims that don't...or their religion.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The people of Dresden might disagree.

    I'm not saying such an action was right or wrong, but we targeted pretty much everything there.
    That was a function of available weaponry, not intent.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Apostasy in Islam means treason...

    So, if you are convicted of a capital offence.. like murder, rape, pedophilia, grand larceny you have betrayed both the community and your faith... ergo.. you are apostate.

    And when you are sentenced for say murder.. the sentencing states murder and apostasy.
    Under Islamic law apostasy is also identified by a list of actions such as conversion to another religion, denying the existence of God, rejecting the prophets, mocking God or the prophets which is what Gardener was referring to. I'm not sure why you chose to ignore that in your reply.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    How do you know that suicide bombings are related to religion? How much of that is driven by desparation instead of religion could be much greater than you realize. I don't know which it is the religion or the desparation. I do know desparate people do desparate things and suicide bombing is a desparate act. Labeling Islam as a gutter religion seems like a generalization to me. How many free muslims have you lived with?

    All religions are silly to me therefore I know little about the history of any of the religions. However, I do know western societies owe quite a bit to that part of the world. At least that's what I was taught in western civ class.
    This post warrants some sort of response.

    On the other hand, if you are unable to connect the very obvious dots why should I bother pointing out the rest?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, we engaged armed soldiers in battle. We did not target all Italians and all Germans.
    Your mind must have wandered between the time your wrote the last post and responded to mine.

    This is what you said

    "Did we ignore the actual Nazi's and Fascists? No, and we don't demonize all Italians and Germans".

    You did not mention anything about engaging soldiers in battle. Anyone familiar with WWI or WWII, in fact in most wars, understand that soldiers engage in battle. Yours is not a terribly shrewd insight.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Yes, Christians have been killing people all over the world for the past 50 years.
    Show me. It should be easy for you to do.

    Riddle me this.. What if 5 Million armed refugees from Sudan arrived in Alabama to settle down and take your homes and property? Do you think there would be friction?
    LOL. We had over 90,000 illegal aliens here before we passed a law punishing the companies who hire them. The illegal problem want way, way down.

    You will have to do better with your analogy. Nice try though. Well, not really.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The people of Dresden might disagree.

    I'm not saying such an action was right or wrong, but we targeted pretty much everything there.
    Absolutely. Many cities all over Europe were bombed, with little regard for the inhabitants, because that has been the traditional way of war.

    We have tried to change those ancient rules but unless both sides agree to the changes one will have a great advantage.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's an option that should certainly be put on the table for the next time anything like this occurs. But first all foreign aid must stop.
    Why wait? We could notify the entire Islamic world that Allah is a fraud. And we will no longer tolerate the fraudsters whipping up attacks against us.

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